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Mail From: "Mark Mucher" <(email redacted)>

Don is on the West coast (Venice, I think)

FSHOC is defunct.

I'm in Vero Beach, but can't recommend any SHO mechanics.

mm in sunny FL


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Fisher" <(email redacted)>
To: "Maury Alston" <(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: Florida SHO people was Re: [Shotimes] Diagnosis of 92 SHO


>I think that there are some SHO people in that area.
> FSHOC (Florida SHO club) and Don Donnelson are in the
> area. Kelvin Turner is there too (I think).
>
> Anyone?
>
> Ian
>
> --- Maury Alston <(email redacted)> wrote:
>
>> I am in South Fl, Pembroke Pines near Ft.
>> Lauderdale. I don't think there is a shop in this
>> area that can help. There are two dealerships about
>> 3 hours away that have techs who own and drive
>> SHO's. I am thinking about driving it to one of
>> them.
>>
>> Ian Fisher <(email redacted)> wrote: Oil in the
>> plugs is a possibilty. I was also thinking
>> at 6 this morning that its possible that you have
>> generic spark plugs or those horrible +4 plugs
>> installed. (yes, i actually woke up thinking about
>> this for some reason). The truth is that we can sit
>> here all day and hypothesize but someone who knows
>> what they are doing (not your particular dealer)
>> needs
>> to take a look at it. Hopefully you're near someone
>> who can help you out. Where are you?
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> --- James White wrote:
>>
>> > If your crank sensor was bad your would have
>> gotten
>> > to the Stealer
>> > at the back end of a tow truck.
>> >
>> > Likely you have bad plug wires, likely caused by
>> oil
>> > in the spark
>> > plug wells.
>> >
>> > If you can't do it yourself (it isn't all that
>> hard)
>> > get an independant
>> > repair shop that will replace the plug wires,
>> clean
>> > out the plug
>> > wells out of the oil that is likely there to cause
>> > problems, and
>> > maybe replace the spark plugs with DOUBLE platium
>> > plugs.
>> >
>> > The intake manifold must be removed inorder to get
>> > the plug wires
>> > installed correctly. The first time is a challenge
>> > to get every
>> > thing reconnected, but after the third or fourth
>> > time it is only
>> > 10 minutes.
>> >
>> > If the oil leak into the spark plug wells is
>> really
>> > bad, once the
>> > intake is off, the valve covers are easly removed
>> > and the valve clearences
>> > are easly checked and maybe adjusted, which should
>> > be done every
>> > 60,000 mi. If necessary, new plug well seals with
>> > new valve cover
>> > seals are available from AutoZone for only $70+/-
>> >
>> > regards, Jim White
>> >
>> >
>> > At Tuesday, 11 July 2006, Maury Alston
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >I have just come from a dealer having my SHO
>> > checked out. I have only
>> > >had this car a couple of weeks and it has not
>> been
>> > the romance I
>> > had hoped.
>> > >Once the car gets warm, it starts to cut out,
>> more
>> > specifically the
>> > >car will not accelerate in 1, 2, or 3rd gear.
>> Once
>> > I get it to
>> > 4th, it
>> > >starts to pick up speed. I have put the petal all
>> > the way to the
>> > floor
>> > >and the engine doesn't rev. I take it to the
>> > dealer and after about 3
>> > >hours, they tell me they "think" it is the crank
>> > sensor and it will be
>> > >about $920 to fix. Has anyone else experienced
>> > this??
>> > >
>> > >Maury
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Mail From: Ian Fisher <(email redacted)>

I think that there are some SHO people in that area.
FSHOC (Florida SHO club) and Don Donnelson are in the
area. Kelvin Turner is there too (I think).

Anyone?

Ian

--- Maury Alston <(email redacted)> wrote:

> I am in South Fl, Pembroke Pines near Ft.
> Lauderdale. I don't think there is a shop in this
> area that can help. There are two dealerships about
> 3 hours away that have techs who own and drive
> SHO's. I am thinking about driving it to one of
> them.
>
> Ian Fisher <(email redacted)> wrote: Oil in the
> plugs is a possibilty. I was also thinking
> at 6 this morning that its possible that you have
> generic spark plugs or those horrible +4 plugs
> installed. (yes, i actually woke up thinking about
> this for some reason). The truth is that we can sit
> here all day and hypothesize but someone who knows
> what they are doing (not your particular dealer)
> needs
> to take a look at it. Hopefully you're near someone
> who can help you out. Where are you?
>
> Ian
>
> --- James White wrote:
>
> > If your crank sensor was bad your would have
> gotten
> > to the Stealer
> > at the back end of a tow truck.
> >
> > Likely you have bad plug wires, likely caused by
> oil
> > in the spark
> > plug wells.
> >
> > If you can't do it yourself (it isn't all that
> hard)
> > get an independant
> > repair shop that will replace the plug wires,
> clean
> > out the plug
> > wells out of the oil that is likely there to cause
> > problems, and
> > maybe replace the spark plugs with DOUBLE platium
> > plugs.
> >
> > The intake manifold must be removed inorder to get
> > the plug wires
> > installed correctly. The first time is a challenge
> > to get every
> > thing reconnected, but after the third or fourth
> > time it is only
> > 10 minutes.
> >
> > If the oil leak into the spark plug wells is
> really
> > bad, once the
> > intake is off, the valve covers are easly removed
> > and the valve clearences
> > are easly checked and maybe adjusted, which should
> > be done every
> > 60,000 mi. If necessary, new plug well seals with
> > new valve cover
> > seals are available from AutoZone for only $70+/-
> >
> > regards, Jim White
> >
> >
> > At Tuesday, 11 July 2006, Maury Alston
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I have just come from a dealer having my SHO
> > checked out. I have only
> > >had this car a couple of weeks and it has not
> been
> > the romance I
> > had hoped.
> > >Once the car gets warm, it starts to cut out,
> more
> > specifically the
> > >car will not accelerate in 1, 2, or 3rd gear.
> Once
> > I get it to
> > 4th, it
> > >starts to pick up speed. I have put the petal all
> > the way to the
> > floor
> > >and the engine doesn't rev. I take it to the
> > dealer and after about 3
> > >hours, they tell me they "think" it is the crank
> > sensor and it will be
> > >about $920 to fix. Has anyone else experienced
> > this??
> > >
> > >Maury
> > >
> > >"Life's battles are not always won by the
> stronger
> > or faster man, but
> > >soon or late, the man who wins is the man who
> > thinks he can!"
> > >
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> > (email redacted)
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>
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Mail From: "van Oss" <(email redacted)>

Even that's only 200 miles from Maury. Let's try to hook 'em up. Is Don
still on TechSHO?
VO


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Don is on the West coast (Venice, I think)
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Mail From: Ian Fisher <(email redacted)>

They are defunct? They are absolute post whores on
SHOforum.. =)

Ian

--- Mark Mucher <(email redacted)> wrote:

> Don is on the West coast (Venice, I think)
>
> FSHOC is defunct.
>
> I'm in Vero Beach, but can't recommend any SHO
> mechanics.
>
> mm in sunny FL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Fisher" <(email redacted)>
> To: "Maury Alston" <(email redacted)>;
> <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:07 PM
> Subject: Florida SHO people was Re: [Shotimes]
> Diagnosis of 92 SHO
>
>
> >I think that there are some SHO people in that
> area.
> > FSHOC (Florida SHO club) and Don Donnelson are in
> the
> > area. Kelvin Turner is there too (I think).
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > --- Maury Alston <(email redacted)> wrote:
> >
> >> I am in South Fl, Pembroke Pines near Ft.
> >> Lauderdale. I don't think there is a shop in
> this
> >> area that can help. There are two dealerships
> about
> >> 3 hours away that have techs who own and drive
> >> SHO's. I am thinking about driving it to one of
> >> them.
> >>
> >> Ian Fisher <(email redacted)> wrote: Oil in
> the
> >> plugs is a possibilty. I was also thinking
> >> at 6 this morning that its possible that you have
> >> generic spark plugs or those horrible +4 plugs
> >> installed. (yes, i actually woke up thinking
> about
> >> this for some reason). The truth is that we can
> sit
> >> here all day and hypothesize but someone who
> knows
> >> what they are doing (not your particular dealer)
> >> needs
> >> to take a look at it. Hopefully you're near
> someone
> >> who can help you out. Where are you?
> >>
> >> Ian
> >>
> >> --- James White wrote:
> >>
> >> > If your crank sensor was bad your would have
> >> gotten
> >> > to the Stealer
> >> > at the back end of a tow truck.
> >> >
> >> > Likely you have bad plug wires, likely caused
> by
> >> oil
> >> > in the spark
> >> > plug wells.
> >> >
> >> > If you can't do it yourself (it isn't all that
> >> hard)
> >> > get an independant
> >> > repair shop that will replace the plug wires,
> >> clean
> >> > out the plug
> >> > wells out of the oil that is likely there to
> cause
> >> > problems, and
> >> > maybe replace the spark plugs with DOUBLE
> platium
> >> > plugs.
> >> >
> >> > The intake manifold must be removed inorder to
> get
> >> > the plug wires
> >> > installed correctly. The first time is a
> challenge
> >> > to get every
> >> > thing reconnected, but after the third or
> fourth
> >> > time it is only
> >> > 10 minutes.
> >> >
> >> > If the oil leak into the spark plug wells is
> >> really
> >> > bad, once the
> >> > intake is off, the valve covers are easly
> removed
> >> > and the valve clearences
> >> > are easly checked and maybe adjusted, which
> should
> >> > be done every
> >> > 60,000 mi. If necessary, new plug well seals
> with
> >> > new valve cover
> >> > seals are available from AutoZone for only
> $70+/-
> >> >
> >> > regards, Jim White
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At Tuesday, 11 July 2006, Maury Alston
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >I have just come from a dealer having my SHO
> >> > checked out. I have only
> >> > >had this car a couple of weeks and it has not
> >> been
> >> > the romance I
> >> > had hoped.
> >> > >Once the car gets warm, it starts to cut out,
> >> more
> >> > specifically the
> >> > >car will not accelerate in 1, 2, or 3rd gear.
> >> Once
> >> > I get it to
> >> > 4th, it
> >> > >starts to pick up speed. I have put the petal
> all
> >> > the way to the
> >> > floor
> >> > >and the engine doesn't rev. I take it to the
> >> > dealer and after about 3
> >> > >hours, they tell me they "think" it is the
> crank
> >> > sensor and it will be
> >> > >about $920 to fix. Has anyone else experienced
> >> > this??
> >> > >
> >> > >Maury
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Mail From: "Mark Mucher" <(email redacted)>

Really?

I had no idea...

I was a member and attended some functions, then everything (incl. e-mails)
just stopped.

Don D.?

mm in sunny FL

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From: "Ian Fisher" <(email redacted)>
To: "Mark Mucher" <(email redacted)>; "Maury Alston"
<(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: Florida SHO people was Re: [Shotimes] Diagnosis of 92 SHO


> They are defunct? They are absolute post whores on
> SHOforum.. =)
>
> Ian
>
> --- Mark Mucher <(email redacted)> wrote:
>
>> Don is on the West coast (Venice, I think)
>>
>> FSHOC is defunct.
>>
>> I'm in Vero Beach, but can't recommend any SHO
>> mechanics.
>>
>> mm in sunny FL
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ian Fisher" <(email redacted)>
>> To: "Maury Alston" <(email redacted)>;
>> <(email redacted)>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:07 PM
>> Subject: Florida SHO people was Re: [Shotimes]
>> Diagnosis of 92 SHO
>>
>>
>> >I think that there are some SHO people in that
>> area.
>> > FSHOC (Florida SHO club) and Don Donnelson are in
>> the
>> > area. Kelvin Turner is there too (I think).
>> >
>> > Anyone?
>> >
>> > Ian
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Mail From: "don donelson" <(email redacted)>

Theres another SHO club that started up about a year or so ago in
jacksonville. Tara M runs it with some other people and she can be found on
SHO Forum.

Regarding the club I started years ago, It got to the point that I was
spending so much time for the one quarterly meeting and when you only get 1
or2 people showing up .... it got a little discouraging.

Mark .. fwiw .. I sent e-mails stating if participation didnt pick up I
would shut the club down ... and when this happened .. i told everyone that
the club was being shut down.

And whos Ian calling a whore ?

dond




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>From: "Mark Mucher" <(email redacted)>
>To: <(email redacted)>
>Subject: Re: Florida SHO people was Re: [Shotimes] Diagnosis of 92 SHO
>Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:53:55 -0400
>
>Really?
>
>I had no idea...
>
>I was a member and attended some functions, then everything (incl. e-mails)
>just stopped.
>
>Don D.?
>
>mm in sunny FL
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Fisher" <(email redacted)>
>To: "Mark Mucher" <(email redacted)>; "Maury Alston"
><(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:29 PM
>Subject: Re: Florida SHO people was Re: [Shotimes] Diagnosis of 92 SHO
>
>
>>They are defunct? They are absolute post whores on
>>SHOforum.. =)
>>
>>Ian
>>
>>--- Mark Mucher <(email redacted)> wrote:
>>
>>>Don is on the West coast (Venice, I think)
>>>
>>>FSHOC is defunct.
>>>
>>>I'm in Vero Beach, but can't recommend any SHO
>>>mechanics.
>>>
>>>mm in sunny FL
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Fisher" <(email redacted)>
>>>To: "Maury Alston" <(email redacted)>;
>>><(email redacted)>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:07 PM
>>>Subject: Florida SHO people was Re: [Shotimes]
>>>Diagnosis of 92 SHO
>>>
>>>
>>> >I think that there are some SHO people in that
>>>area.
>>> > FSHOC (Florida SHO club) and Don Donnelson are in
>>>the
>>> > area. Kelvin Turner is there too (I think).
>>> >
>>> > Anyone?
>>> >
>>> > Ian
>_______________________________________________
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>team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes

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Mail From: Maury Alston <(email redacted)>

Hey y'all

I got an e-mail from Don this morning! Thanks for the help and I will keep y'all posted.

van Oss <(email redacted)> wrote:
Even that's only 200 miles from Maury. Let's try to hook 'em up. Is Don
still on TechSHO?
VO


----- Original Message -----
Don is on the West coast (Venice, I think)




Maury

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Mail From: "Ron Porter" <(email redacted)>

Mark may believe it's defunct because it seems to be "TCCA South". I suspect
that there is an upper age limit of maybe 25 or so!! ;-)

Ron Porter

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:29 PM
To: Mark Mucher; Maury Alston; (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Florida SHO people was Re: [Shotimes] Diagnosis of 92 SHO

They are defunct? They are absolute post whores on
SHOforum.. =)

Ian
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Mail From: "Mark Mucher" <(email redacted)>

Ron,

That's the idea I got - My kids would be too old for that group!

Mark

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Shotimes" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: Florida SHO people was Re: [Shotimes] Diagnosis of 92 SHO


> Mark may believe it's defunct because it seems to be "TCCA South". I
> suspect
> that there is an upper age limit of maybe 25 or so!! ;-)
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: (email redacted) [mailtosad smileyemail redacted)]
> On Behalf Of Ian Fisher
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:29 PM
> To: Mark Mucher; Maury Alston; (email redacted)
> Subject: Re: Florida SHO people was Re: [Shotimes] Diagnosis of 92 SHO
>
> They are defunct? They are absolute post whores on
> SHOforum.. =)
>
> Ian>
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Mail From: "Kelvin Turner" <(email redacted)>

I thought I'd replied to this topic yesterday... guess it didn't go through.

Anyway, looks like you've gotten in touch with the guy that you needed to be
in touch with. Good luck with the car.

And FSHOC does exist. We've got a meet planned for the 30th of this month
in Daytona. I believe that they are looking to spend the middle of the day
at Daytona USA, then go take some SHO pictures on the beach. After that
we'll probably eat at Bubba Gumps. Against all common beliefs, SHO owners
of all ages are welcome.

Kelvin


>From: Maury Alston <(email redacted)>
>To: van Oss <(email redacted)>, Mark Mucher <(email redacted)>,
> Ian Fisher <(email redacted)>, (email redacted)
>Subject: Re: Florida SHO people was Re: [Shotimes] Diagnosis of 92 SHO
>Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:09:57 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hey y'all
>
> I got an e-mail from Don this morning! Thanks for the help and I will
>keep y'all posted.
>
>van Oss <(email redacted)> wrote:
> Even that's only 200 miles from Maury. Let's try to hook 'em up. Is Don
>still on TechSHO?
>VO
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>Don is on the West coast (Venice, I think)
>
>
>
>
>Maury
>
>"Life's battles are not always won by the stronger or faster man, but soon
>or late, the man who wins is the man who thinks he can!"
>
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