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Go with the Global West. I currently use it on my 70 shelby that I
vintage-race. I have a small restoration and high-performance business and
am a dealer for both globalwest and total conrol. At this point the global
west system is by far the best choice for performance. If you would like
more info feel free to email me privately and I will try to help you with
any info you might need.At 01:00 AM 3/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Allright, I really should do something about my suspension system real
>soon. It's old, a bit worn, the shocks need replacing, leaf springs sag
>just enough to be too much for comfort, and the car, in general, doesn't
>like much hard driving. It's stock suspension, after all
>
> In light of mentioned names like Total Control, Mustang II, and Global
>West, I figure at least one of these must provide somewhat better street
>handling than Ford stock suspension.
> My questions is: Can anyone point me in the right direction in choosing
>a suspension configuration that will adequately suit my car's intended
>driving needs?
> The engine I'll, (in 1-2 years, I hope), be dropping in will be a
>built-to-specs and improved-on Boss 302 style engine, with somewhere in
>the range of 290-320 HP. I'd like to get as close to high-performance
>street handling as I can, however I do it. Right now, since I'm trying
>to get a suspension plan down on paper, I'd like to see what is the best
>I can do without modifying the car much, (ie: don't mind changing
>original suspension components, and some drilling I don't mind either,
>as long as it isn't excessive).
> The Total Control Coil-Over system sounds good, but from the impression
>I get, it seems like it's better suited for racing. I drive the car
>predominantly on weekends, and occasionally during the week, so tuning
>things, myself I wouldn't mind much as long as I don't have to do it too
>much. The least maintinence possible would be ideal, but then again,
>I'm looking for high performance, and I can stand minor adjustments if I
>have to.
> Simply, I'm looking for a good system that will give me
>good-to-excellent handling and will stay reliable for 1-2 days of
>regular driving.
> Am I asking the impossible, here? Any advice you can give me, please
>do. And thank you in advance, as always :}
>
> -Kahn
>
>302-2v 1969 FB
> (Soon to be a real high-performance car..... one of these days, I
>hope...)
>
>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:39:05 -0800
>> From: Kelly Murray <(email redacted)>
>> To: (email redacted)
>> Subject: Re: Coil overs
>> Message-ID: <(email redacted)>
>>
>> >> Any thoughts on totalcontrols products? Especially the coil over =
>> >> suspension kit?
>> >> Check out totalcontrolproducts.com . Seems pretty cool.
>> > I saw a picture, and have to ask WHY?? what do you gain? one advantage
>> > of going to a Mustang II suspention is getting rid of the shock towers,
>>
>> For sure, and at $1,800 to boot.
>> I had been looking over the front suspension on my '70, and it seemed
>> to me one could eliminate the shock towers by using a coilover setup
>> that mounts to the lower control arm, and fabricate an upper spring mount
>> off the frame rail. This should not be difficult to do, and for
>> a lot less money than the ~$2K price of MustangII kits.
>> But I wonder if the lower control arm
>> and its mount point can take all the weight of the car---
>> it wasn't designed for it.
>> In this kit, they've put all the weight there.
>>
>> (not that I plan on hacking my car, but perhaps another 60's Ford...)
>>
>> -Kelly Murray (email redacted) '70 Mach1
>>
>>
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Mail From: (email redacted) (email redacted)
Go with the Global West. I currently use it on my 70 shelby that I
vintage-race. I have a small restoration and high-performance business and
am a dealer for both globalwest and total conrol. At this point the global
west system is by far the best choice for performance. If you would like
more info feel free to email me privately and I will try to help you with
any info you might need.At 01:00 AM 3/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Allright, I really should do something about my suspension system real
>soon. It's old, a bit worn, the shocks need replacing, leaf springs sag
>just enough to be too much for comfort, and the car, in general, doesn't
>like much hard driving. It's stock suspension, after all
>
> In light of mentioned names like Total Control, Mustang II, and Global
>West, I figure at least one of these must provide somewhat better street
>handling than Ford stock suspension.
> My questions is: Can anyone point me in the right direction in choosing
>a suspension configuration that will adequately suit my car's intended
>driving needs?
> The engine I'll, (in 1-2 years, I hope), be dropping in will be a
>built-to-specs and improved-on Boss 302 style engine, with somewhere in
>the range of 290-320 HP. I'd like to get as close to high-performance
>street handling as I can, however I do it. Right now, since I'm trying
>to get a suspension plan down on paper, I'd like to see what is the best
>I can do without modifying the car much, (ie: don't mind changing
>original suspension components, and some drilling I don't mind either,
>as long as it isn't excessive).
> The Total Control Coil-Over system sounds good, but from the impression
>I get, it seems like it's better suited for racing. I drive the car
>predominantly on weekends, and occasionally during the week, so tuning
>things, myself I wouldn't mind much as long as I don't have to do it too
>much. The least maintinence possible would be ideal, but then again,
>I'm looking for high performance, and I can stand minor adjustments if I
>have to.
> Simply, I'm looking for a good system that will give me
>good-to-excellent handling and will stay reliable for 1-2 days of
>regular driving.
> Am I asking the impossible, here? Any advice you can give me, please
>do. And thank you in advance, as always :}
>
> -Kahn
>
>302-2v 1969 FB
> (Soon to be a real high-performance car..... one of these days, I
>hope...)
>
>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:39:05 -0800
>> From: Kelly Murray <(email redacted)>
>> To: (email redacted)
>> Subject: Re: Coil overs
>> Message-ID: <(email redacted)>
>>
>> >> Any thoughts on totalcontrols products? Especially the coil over =
>> >> suspension kit?
>> >> Check out totalcontrolproducts.com . Seems pretty cool.
>> > I saw a picture, and have to ask WHY?? what do you gain? one advantage
>> > of going to a Mustang II suspention is getting rid of the shock towers,
>>
>> For sure, and at $1,800 to boot.
>> I had been looking over the front suspension on my '70, and it seemed
>> to me one could eliminate the shock towers by using a coilover setup
>> that mounts to the lower control arm, and fabricate an upper spring mount
>> off the frame rail. This should not be difficult to do, and for
>> a lot less money than the ~$2K price of MustangII kits.
>> But I wonder if the lower control arm
>> and its mount point can take all the weight of the car---
>> it wasn't designed for it.
>> In this kit, they've put all the weight there.
>>
>> (not that I plan on hacking my car, but perhaps another 60's Ford...)
>>
>> -Kelly Murray (email redacted) '70 Mach1
>>
>>
>
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Mail From: Watkins, Paul (email redacted)
I too have the GW uppers and love them, although I am enticed by the
TCP's adjustment ability. TCP's replacement uppers are adjustable which
means you don't have to use shims and the upper can rest firmly on the
shock tower - this "in theory" sounds a lot better than shims but I
don't know anything about them first hand.
Paul
> ----------
> From: (email redacted)[SMTP
email redacted)]
> Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 12:20 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [CM:9888] Re: Total Control Coil Overs vs. Mustang II
>
> Go with the Global West. I currently use it on my 70 shelby that I
> vintage-race. I have a small restoration and high-performance business
> and
> am a dealer for both globalwest and total conrol. At this point the
> global
> west system is by far the best choice for performance. If you would
> like
> more info feel free to email me privately and I will try to help you
> with
> any info you might need.At 01:00 AM 3/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Allright, I really should do something about my suspension system
> real
> >soon. It's old, a bit worn, the shocks need replacing, leaf springs
> sag
> >just enough to be too much for comfort, and the car, in general,
> doesn't
> >like much hard driving. It's stock suspension, after all
> >
> > In light of mentioned names like Total Control, Mustang II, and
> Global
> >West, I figure at least one of these must provide somewhat better
> street
> >handling than Ford stock suspension.
> > My questions is: Can anyone point me in the right direction in
> choosing
> >a suspension configuration that will adequately suit my car's
> intended
> >driving needs?
> > The engine I'll, (in 1-2 years, I hope), be dropping in will be
> a
> >built-to-specs and improved-on Boss 302 style engine, with somewhere
> in
> >the range of 290-320 HP. I'd like to get as close to
> high-performance
> >street handling as I can, however I do it. Right now, since I'm
> trying
> >to get a suspension plan down on paper, I'd like to see what is the
> best
> >I can do without modifying the car much, (ie: don't mind changing
> >original suspension components, and some drilling I don't mind
> either,
> >as long as it isn't excessive).
> > The Total Control Coil-Over system sounds good, but from the
> impression
> >I get, it seems like it's better suited for racing. I drive the car
> >predominantly on weekends, and occasionally during the week, so
> tuning
> >things, myself I wouldn't mind much as long as I don't have to do it
> too
> >much. The least maintinence possible would be ideal, but then again,
> >I'm looking for high performance, and I can stand minor adjustments
> if I
> >have to.
> > Simply, I'm looking for a good system that will give me
> >good-to-excellent handling and will stay reliable for 1-2 days of
> >regular driving.
> > Am I asking the impossible, here? Any advice you can give me,
> please
> >do. And thank you in advance, as always :}
> >
> > -Kahn
> >
> >302-2v 1969 FB
> > (Soon to be a real high-performance car..... one of these days,
> I
> >hope...)
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:39:05 -0800
> >> From: Kelly Murray <(email redacted)>
> >> To: (email redacted)
> >> Subject: Re: Coil overs
> >> Message-ID: <(email redacted)>
> >>
> >> >> Any thoughts on totalcontrols products? Especially the coil over
> =
> >> >> suspension kit?
> >> >> Check out totalcontrolproducts.com . Seems pretty
> cool.
> >> > I saw a picture, and have to ask WHY?? what do you gain? one
> advantage
> >> > of going to a Mustang II suspention is getting rid of the shock
> towers,
> >>
> >> For sure, and at $1,800 to boot.
> >> I had been looking over the front suspension on my '70, and it
> seemed
> >> to me one could eliminate the shock towers by using a coilover
> setup
> >> that mounts to the lower control arm, and fabricate an upper spring
> mount
> >> off the frame rail. This should not be difficult to do, and for
> >> a lot less money than the ~$2K price of MustangII kits.
> >> But I wonder if the lower control arm
> >> and its mount point can take all the weight of the car---
> >> it wasn't designed for it.
> >> In this kit, they've put all the weight there.
> >>
> >> (not that I plan on hacking my car, but perhaps another 60's
> Ford...)
> >>
> >> -Kelly Murray (email redacted) '70 Mach1
> >>
> >>
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
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Mail From: Watkins, Paul (email redacted)
I too have the GW uppers and love them, although I am enticed by the
TCP's adjustment ability. TCP's replacement uppers are adjustable which
means you don't have to use shims and the upper can rest firmly on the
shock tower - this "in theory" sounds a lot better than shims but I
don't know anything about them first hand.
Paul
> ----------
> From: (email redacted)[SMTP
email redacted)]> Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 12:20 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [CM:9888] Re: Total Control Coil Overs vs. Mustang II
>
> Go with the Global West. I currently use it on my 70 shelby that I
> vintage-race. I have a small restoration and high-performance business
> and
> am a dealer for both globalwest and total conrol. At this point the
> global
> west system is by far the best choice for performance. If you would
> like
> more info feel free to email me privately and I will try to help you
> with
> any info you might need.At 01:00 AM 3/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Allright, I really should do something about my suspension system
> real
> >soon. It's old, a bit worn, the shocks need replacing, leaf springs
> sag
> >just enough to be too much for comfort, and the car, in general,
> doesn't
> >like much hard driving. It's stock suspension, after all
> >
> > In light of mentioned names like Total Control, Mustang II, and
> Global
> >West, I figure at least one of these must provide somewhat better
> street
> >handling than Ford stock suspension.
> > My questions is: Can anyone point me in the right direction in
> choosing
> >a suspension configuration that will adequately suit my car's
> intended
> >driving needs?
> > The engine I'll, (in 1-2 years, I hope), be dropping in will be
> a
> >built-to-specs and improved-on Boss 302 style engine, with somewhere
> in
> >the range of 290-320 HP. I'd like to get as close to
> high-performance
> >street handling as I can, however I do it. Right now, since I'm
> trying
> >to get a suspension plan down on paper, I'd like to see what is the
> best
> >I can do without modifying the car much, (ie: don't mind changing
> >original suspension components, and some drilling I don't mind
> either,
> >as long as it isn't excessive).
> > The Total Control Coil-Over system sounds good, but from the
> impression
> >I get, it seems like it's better suited for racing. I drive the car
> >predominantly on weekends, and occasionally during the week, so
> tuning
> >things, myself I wouldn't mind much as long as I don't have to do it
> too
> >much. The least maintinence possible would be ideal, but then again,
> >I'm looking for high performance, and I can stand minor adjustments
> if I
> >have to.
> > Simply, I'm looking for a good system that will give me
> >good-to-excellent handling and will stay reliable for 1-2 days of
> >regular driving.
> > Am I asking the impossible, here? Any advice you can give me,
> please
> >do. And thank you in advance, as always :}
> >
> > -Kahn
> >
> >302-2v 1969 FB
> > (Soon to be a real high-performance car..... one of these days,
> I
> >hope...)
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:39:05 -0800
> >> From: Kelly Murray <(email redacted)>
> >> To: (email redacted)
> >> Subject: Re: Coil overs
> >> Message-ID: <(email redacted)>
> >>
> >> >> Any thoughts on totalcontrols products? Especially the coil over
> =
> >> >> suspension kit?
> >> >> Check out totalcontrolproducts.com . Seems pretty
> cool.
> >> > I saw a picture, and have to ask WHY?? what do you gain? one
> advantage
> >> > of going to a Mustang II suspention is getting rid of the shock
> towers,
> >>
> >> For sure, and at $1,800 to boot.
> >> I had been looking over the front suspension on my '70, and it
> seemed
> >> to me one could eliminate the shock towers by using a coilover
> setup
> >> that mounts to the lower control arm, and fabricate an upper spring
> mount
> >> off the frame rail. This should not be difficult to do, and for
> >> a lot less money than the ~$2K price of MustangII kits.
> >> But I wonder if the lower control arm
> >> and its mount point can take all the weight of the car---
> >> it wasn't designed for it.
> >> In this kit, they've put all the weight there.
> >>
> >> (not that I plan on hacking my car, but perhaps another 60's
> Ford...)
> >>
> >> -Kelly Murray (email redacted) '70 Mach1
> >>
> >>
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> >All the list info you'll ever want:
> antler.webworks.ca/~server/cm
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> All the list info you'll ever want:
> antler.webworks.ca/~server/cm
>
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