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Mail From: benw (Ben Witso)

I just purchased a replacement chrome and woodgrain insert for my 70
Mach 1 console. My console has 6 holes drilled to mount it, but the new
panel has an additional 4 holes and a template to use to drill the
additional holes. The instructions say that since the unit is attached
by heatstaking the tabs they were prone to breaking and the additional
tabs provide a stronger mount. I had two thoughts for mounting it.
First, drill the extra holes and mount it using trim adhesive and
heatstake the tabs. The other would be to only use the 6 original
tabs/holes (grind down the 4 extra), and mount it with trim adhesive
and push-on clips or trim nuts instead of heatstaking the tabs. I'm
leaning toward the latter as there is less chance of messing up trying
to melt the tabs. If I should go the former (or using just the 6 tabs
but still heatstaking them), how do I go about melting the tabs? Any
thoughts/comments/opinions?

TIA,
Ben
70 Mach 1
65 Convertible (just media blasted and primed)
66 Convertible (still waiting)

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Mail From: psawyer (Dr. Paul R. Sawyer)

You could melt the tabs with a large headed nail (roofing nail), a pair
of vise grips to hold it and a blowtorch. Heat up the nail and press
the head into the tabs. It ain't pretty, but it works. It probably
also isn't very good for your brain--petrochemicals and all--but. . . .

--P

On Mar 13, 2005, at 8:32 PM, Ben Witso wrote:

> I just purchased a replacement chrome and woodgrain insert for my 70
> Mach 1 console. My console has 6 holes drilled to mount it, but the
> new panel has an additional 4 holes and a template to use to drill the
> additional holes. The instructions say that since the unit is attached
> by heatstaking the tabs they were prone to breaking and the additional
> tabs provide a stronger mount. I had two thoughts for mounting it.
> First, drill the extra holes and mount it using trim adhesive and
> heatstake the tabs. The other would be to only use the 6 original
> tabs/holes (grind down the 4 extra), and mount it with trim adhesive
> and push-on clips or trim nuts instead of heatstaking the tabs. I'm
> leaning toward the latter as there is less chance of messing up trying
> to melt the tabs. If I should go the former (or using just the 6 tabs
> but still heatstaking them), how do I go about melting the tabs? Any
> thoughts/comments/opinions?
>
> TIA,
> Ben
> 70 Mach 1
> 65 Convertible (just media blasted and primed)
> 66 Convertible (still waiting)
>
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Mail From: wagner (Kevin L. Wagner)

I used #6-#8 push nuts from O'Reilly Auto Parts, the pack is about 3
dollars. I then found that Lowes had the same things for $.69 a pack.
Either way they worked just fine.

If you were to buy a new console part from NPD, they come with the extra
holes drilled, so your choice.


At 08:32 PM 3/13/2005, Ben Witso wrote:
>I just purchased a replacement chrome and woodgrain insert for my 70 Mach
>1 console. My console has 6 holes drilled to mount it, but the new panel
>has an additional 4 holes and a template to use to drill the additional
>holes. The instructions say that since the unit is attached by heatstaking
>the tabs they were prone to breaking and the additional tabs provide a
>stronger mount. I had two thoughts for mounting it. First, drill the extra
>holes and mount it using trim adhesive and heatstake the tabs. The other
>would be to only use the 6 original tabs/holes (grind down the 4 extra),
>and mount it with trim adhesive and push-on clips or trim nuts instead of
>heatstaking the tabs. I'm leaning toward the latter as there is less
>chance of messing up trying to melt the tabs. If I should go the former
>(or using just the 6 tabs but still heatstaking them), how do I go about
>melting the tabs? Any thoughts/comments/opinions?
>
>TIA,
>Ben
>70 Mach 1
>65 Convertible (just media blasted and primed)
>66 Convertible (still waiting)
>
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>lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/classic-mustangs

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Mail From: wagner (Kevin L. Wagner)

I used #6-#8 push nuts from O'Reilly Auto Parts, the pack is about 3
dollars. I then found that Lowes had the same things for $.69 a pack.
Either way they worked just fine.

If you were to buy a new console part from NPD, they come with the extra
holes drilled, so your choice.


At 08:32 PM 3/13/2005, Ben Witso wrote:
>I just purchased a replacement chrome and woodgrain insert for my 70 Mach
>1 console. My console has 6 holes drilled to mount it, but the new panel
>has an additional 4 holes and a template to use to drill the additional
>holes. The instructions say that since the unit is attached by heatstaking
>the tabs they were prone to breaking and the additional tabs provide a
>stronger mount. I had two thoughts for mounting it. First, drill the extra
>holes and mount it using trim adhesive and heatstake the tabs. The other
>would be to only use the 6 original tabs/holes (grind down the 4 extra),
>and mount it with trim adhesive and push-on clips or trim nuts instead of
>heatstaking the tabs. I'm leaning toward the latter as there is less
>chance of messing up trying to melt the tabs. If I should go the former
>(or using just the 6 tabs but still heatstaking them), how do I go about
>melting the tabs? Any thoughts/comments/opinions?
>
>TIA,
>Ben
>70 Mach 1
>65 Convertible (just media blasted and primed)
>66 Convertible (still waiting)
>
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>Classic-mustangs mailing list
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Mail From: mach70 (mark thispot)

Ben,
This is now a plastic repop? Isn't the original a die-cast part? I've been
considering replacing my flaky original but if it's a lesser-quality
replacement I may reconsider. How's it look?

Mark
70 Mach1

>Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:32:45 -0600
>From: Ben Witso <(email redacted)>
>Subject: [CM] 70 Console Woodgrain Insert
>To: Classic Mustangs <(email redacted)>
>Message-ID: <(email redacted)>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>I just purchased a replacement chrome and woodgrain insert for my 70
>Mach 1 console. My console has 6 holes drilled to mount it, but the new
>panel has an additional 4 holes and a template to use to drill the
>additional holes. The instructions say that since the unit is attached
>by heatstaking the tabs they were prone to breaking and the additional
>tabs provide a stronger mount. I had two thoughts for mounting it.
>First, drill the extra holes and mount it using trim adhesive and
>heatstake the tabs. The other would be to only use the 6 original
>tabs/holes (grind down the 4 extra), and mount it with trim adhesive
>and push-on clips or trim nuts instead of heatstaking the tabs. I'm
>leaning toward the latter as there is less chance of messing up trying
>to melt the tabs. If I should go the former (or using just the 6 tabs
>but still heatstaking them), how do I go about melting the tabs? Any
>thoughts/comments/opinions?
>
>TIA,
>Ben
>70 Mach 1
>65 Convertible (just media blasted and primed)
>66 Convertible (still waiting)

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Mail From: benw (Ben Witso)

I've never had an original off to be able to tell if it was metal or
plastic, but according to the instruction sheet that came with this one
the originals were plastic and these are made from the same molds- with
the additional 4 pins. It does look nice. They come with two different
shades of woodgrain - medium walnut and light teak. I first ordered the
medium walnut but it is darker than the rest of my woodgrain so I've
ordered a light teak to compare. I'll keep the one that matches best.
The teak one should be here later this week so I can let you know witch
matches best if you would like.

And thanks to the others who have responded. I think I'm going to go
with the original 6 mounting pins and use the push nuts and some 3m
plastic and emblem adhesive.

HTH
Ben
70 Mach
65 Convert
66 Convert

On Mar 14, 2005, at 11:47 AM, mark thispot wrote:

> Ben,
> This is now a plastic repop? Isn't the original a die-cast part?
> I've been considering replacing my flaky original but if it's a
> lesser-quality replacement I may reconsider. How's it look?
>
> Mark
> 70 Mach1
>
>> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:32:45 -0600
>> From: Ben Witso <(email redacted)>
>> Subject: [CM] 70 Console Woodgrain Insert
>> To: Classic Mustangs <(email redacted)>
>> Message-ID: <(email redacted)>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>
>> I just purchased a replacement chrome and woodgrain insert for my 70
>> Mach 1 console. My console has 6 holes drilled to mount it, but the
>> new
>> panel has an additional 4 holes and a template to use to drill the
>> additional holes. The instructions say that since the unit is attached
>> by heatstaking the tabs they were prone to breaking and the additional
>> tabs provide a stronger mount. I had two thoughts for mounting it.
>> First, drill the extra holes and mount it using trim adhesive and
>> heatstake the tabs. The other would be to only use the 6 original
>> tabs/holes (grind down the 4 extra), and mount it with trim adhesive
>> and push-on clips or trim nuts instead of heatstaking the tabs. I'm
>> leaning toward the latter as there is less chance of messing up trying
>> to melt the tabs. If I should go the former (or using just the 6 tabs
>> but still heatstaking them), how do I go about melting the tabs? Any
>> thoughts/comments/opinions?
>>
>> TIA,
>> Ben
>> 70 Mach 1
>> 65 Convertible (just media blasted and primed)
>> 66 Convertible (still waiting)
>
>
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Mail From: speegle ((email redacted))

Original ones were plastic and had the vacuum folded plastic chrome over that. The tone/color fo the wood grain is something Ford changed (if I remember correctly) in about Jan 69. So its was a running change about half way through production

Jeff Speegle

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Witso <(email redacted)>
Sent: Mar 15, 2005 5:17 AM
To:
A list for owners of Classic Mustangs <(email redacted)>
Subject: Re: [CM] RE: 70 Console Woodgrain Insert

I've never had an original off to be able to tell if it was metal or
plastic, but according to the instruction sheet that came with this one
the originals were plastic and these are made from the same molds- with
the additional 4 pins. It does look nice. They come with two different
shades of woodgrain - medium walnut and light teak. I first ordered the
medium walnut but it is darker than the rest of my woodgrain so I've
ordered a light teak to compare. I'll keep the one that matches best.
The teak one should be here later this week so I can let you know witch
matches best if you would like.

And thanks to the others who have responded. I think I'm going to go
with the original 6 mounting pins and use the push nuts and some 3m
plastic and emblem adhesive.

HTH
Ben
70 Mach
65 Convert
66 Convert

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Mail From: benw (Ben Witso)

All,
The light teak one arrived today and it does match the interior. Thanks
to all for the responses!

Ben
70 Mach 1
65 Convertible (just media blasted and primed)
66 Convertible (still waiting)

On Mar 15, 2005, at 10:28 AM, (email redacted) wrote:

> Original ones were plastic and had the vacuum folded plastic chrome
> over that. The tone/color fo the wood grain is something Ford changed
> (if I remember correctly) in about Jan 69. So its was a running change
> about half way through production
>
> Jeff Speegle
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Witso <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Mar 15, 2005 5:17 AM
> To:
> A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
> <(email redacted)>
> Subject: Re: [CM] RE: 70 Console Woodgrain Insert
>
> I've never had an original off to be able to tell if it was metal or
> plastic, but according to the instruction sheet that came with this one
> the originals were plastic and these are made from the same molds- with
> the additional 4 pins. It does look nice. They come with two different
> shades of woodgrain - medium walnut and light teak. I first ordered the
> medium walnut but it is darker than the rest of my woodgrain so I've
> ordered a light teak to compare. I'll keep the one that matches best.
> The teak one should be here later this week so I can let you know witch
> matches best if you would like.
>
> And thanks to the others who have responded. I think I'm going to go
> with the original 6 mounting pins and use the push nuts and some 3m
> plastic and emblem adhesive.
>
> HTH
> Ben
> 70 Mach
> 65 Convert
> 66 Convert
>
>
>
>
>
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