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Just remember that only a 351 Windsor will fit a 64 1/2 to '66 without any
modification. A 351 Cleveland will not!!!!!!!

Just keep that in mind!!!

For '67 and after cars, You can throw in a 460 without modification!!! I've
seen it done!!!!

Tony.

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A 351C is SMALLER than a 351W. Something about the 66's I'm overlooking?
At 04:10 PM 8/12/01 EDT, you wrote:
>
>Just remember that only a 351 Windsor will fit a 64 1/2 to '66 without any
>modification. A 351 Cleveland will not!!!!!!!
>
>Just keep that in mind!!!
>
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Mail From: (email redacted) (Jeff Speegle)

No a Cleveland is NOT smaller than a Windsor


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Jeff Speegle, (email redacted) on 08/12/2001


On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:11:27 -0500, Chris Kelly wrote:
>A 351C is SMALLER than a 351W. Something about the 66's I'm
>overlooking?
>At 04:10 PM 8/12/01 EDT, you wrote:

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Cleveland is wider than the Windsor, I believe

-Jason

At 05:06 PM 8/12/01 -0700, you wrote:
>No a Cleveland is NOT smaller than a Windsor
>
>
>--
>Jeff Speegle, (email redacted) on 08/12/2001
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:11:27 -0500, Chris Kelly wrote:
> >A 351C is SMALLER than a 351W. Something about the 66's I'm
> >overlooking?
> >At 04:10 PM 8/12/01 EDT, you wrote:
>
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Mail From: (email redacted) (AJ Derrick)

cleveland is a big block motor, windsor is a small block...i believe

aj
66 coupe
95 gt






Chris Kelly wrote:
>
> A 351C is SMALLER than a 351W. Something about the 66's I'm overlooking?
> At 04:10 PM 8/12/01 EDT, you wrote:
> >
> >Just remember that only a 351 Windsor will fit a 64 1/2 to '66 without any
> >modification. A 351 Cleveland will not!!!!!!!

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Deck on a 351W is 9.5, deck on a 351C is 9.2. The taller deck allows a W
to be stroked way out (393 and up), but the short deck on the C means you
get into the oil rings with anything above a 377 stroker. The exhaust
ports on a 351C point down unlike the windsor head, which points out
towards the shock tower. The C allows for a smoother bend exiting the
port, opposed to the sharp bend necessary to fit the pipe on a W. The head
on the C is square, making it a bigger part than the W head, but it really
doesn't end up being wider due to the shorter deck. A W is tight fit with
headers even in a 67 up. I can stick my hands down past the headers
(between the headers and the shock towers) on my 67 Falcon. I have put
mucho headers on smallblock windsors large and small and I can tell you it
is MUCH easer to put the headers on our Falcon C motor than on the Mustang
302. Effectively, in my experience, a C can be a better fit in some cases
than a W. They are effectively the same size but the C may allow a better
fit when using headers. IMHO. ;~)

At 05:28 PM 8/12/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Cleveland is wider than the Windsor, I believe
>
>-Jason
>
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351c is a small block

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Mail From: (email redacted) (Stephen Mirsky)

I've learned a few things in my time...

351C is not truly larger than a 351W (A 351M is) The deck on a 351C is
even shorter than on a W. The exhaust ports also point more downward on the
Cleveland. Which means if you're going custom headers either way, it should
be easier to make them for the Cleveland. If you want off the shelf headers
(which I don't believe there are any) you're basically screwed on the
Cleveland, and custom headers are not cheap.

351C and W both use the same motor mount setup, and should use the same
bellhousing bolt pattern. The 351M and 400 use the 460 (385 series) big
block bolt pattern.

-steve in nj-



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Mail From: (email redacted) (Jones, Keith)

I did a swap in my 69 Grande Coupe - 351W for a 351C.
It is quite a bit tighter in the engine bay.
For instance, to clean / change spark plugs, it is easier to remove the
motor mount bolt and 'tilt' that side of the engine up with a floor jack.
There are probably spark plug tools that could get in there... but I do not
have them.
Forget about easily changing the exhaust manifold gaskets!

KJ



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From: Stephen Mirsky [mailtoemail redacted)]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:12 AM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: [CM] 351 in my 64.1/2 - Will it fit??


I've learned a few things in my time...

351C is not truly larger than a 351W (A 351M is) The deck on a 351C is
even shorter than on a W. The exhaust ports also point more downward on the

Cleveland. Which means if you're going custom headers either way, it should

be easier to make them for the Cleveland. If you want off the shelf headers

(which I don't believe there are any) you're basically screwed on the
Cleveland, and custom headers are not cheap.

351C and W both use the same motor mount setup, and should use the same
bellhousing bolt pattern. The 351M and 400 use the 460 (385 series) big
block bolt pattern.

-steve in nj-



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Mail From: (email redacted) (AJ Derrick)

thanks for settin' me straight
on the small block / big block thing...


aj
66 coupe
95 gt




Stephen Mirsky wrote:
>
> I've learned a few things in my time...
>
> 351C is not truly larger than a 351W (A 351M is) The deck on a 351C is
> even shorter than on a W. The exhaust ports also point more downward on the
> Cleveland. Which means if you're going custom headers either way, it should
> be easier to make them for the Cleveland. If you want off the shelf headers
> (which I don't believe there are any) you're basically screwed on the
> Cleveland, and custom headers are not cheap.
>
> 351C and W both use the same motor mount setup, and should use the same
> bellhousing bolt pattern. The 351M and 400 use the 460 (385 series) big
> block bolt pattern.