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Mail From: Roberto Arturo Schafer <(email redacted)>
> My point is Ford needs to try a little harder to DESIGN instead of cast
> the first idea that comes into their heads. Believe me, there are FAR
> too many decisions made in any engineering industry, soley on a "gut
> feel". Sometimes its right, other times superchargers screw up after 15
> miles.
It does not pay Ford to have a bad design. If a part give up after a
short period, likely it was a manufacturing defect, not design. Ford has
been stressing longevity for quite some time now. And the starter design
has been around a very long time.
As far as "gut feel".... At least one thing that my teachers have
stressed is that. How many times the data has said one thing, but
experience tells you otherwise. Then it is time to look closely at the
problem. Mr. Spock doesn't understand this, but sometimes "gut feel" is
all you really have.
And, I still say every four years is a bit much for a starter. As an
engine gets older it is easier to turn over, so a rebuilt should last
longer than the original did. Now, I know full well there are
exceptions, but for most people, that is too often. Especially a Ford
starter. I know that they go for 15+ years even on cars that are driven
a lot.
Rob
Mail From: Roberto Arturo Schafer <(email redacted)>
> My point is Ford needs to try a little harder to DESIGN instead of cast
> the first idea that comes into their heads. Believe me, there are FAR
> too many decisions made in any engineering industry, soley on a "gut
> feel". Sometimes its right, other times superchargers screw up after 15
> miles.
It does not pay Ford to have a bad design. If a part give up after a
short period, likely it was a manufacturing defect, not design. Ford has
been stressing longevity for quite some time now. And the starter design
has been around a very long time.
As far as "gut feel".... At least one thing that my teachers have
stressed is that. How many times the data has said one thing, but
experience tells you otherwise. Then it is time to look closely at the
problem. Mr. Spock doesn't understand this, but sometimes "gut feel" is
all you really have.
And, I still say every four years is a bit much for a starter. As an
engine gets older it is easier to turn over, so a rebuilt should last
longer than the original did. Now, I know full well there are
exceptions, but for most people, that is too often. Especially a Ford
starter. I know that they go for 15+ years even on cars that are driven
a lot.
Rob
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Mail From: (email redacted)
>And, I still say every four years is a bit much for a starter. As an
>engine gets older it is easier to turn over, so a rebuilt should last
>longer than the original did. Now, I know full well there are
>exceptions, but for most people, that is too often. Especially a Ford
>starter. I know that they go for 15+ years even on cars that are
>driven a lot.
I agree. My oldest Ford, an 86 T-Bird Turbo Coupe, is still on the
original starter. If a rebuilt one died after 4 years, I wouldn't by
the next one from the same builder.
Bob
Mail From: (email redacted)
>And, I still say every four years is a bit much for a starter. As an
>engine gets older it is easier to turn over, so a rebuilt should last
>longer than the original did. Now, I know full well there are
>exceptions, but for most people, that is too often. Especially a Ford
>starter. I know that they go for 15+ years even on cars that are
>driven a lot.
I agree. My oldest Ford, an 86 T-Bird Turbo Coupe, is still on the
original starter. If a rebuilt one died after 4 years, I wouldn't by
the next one from the same builder.
Bob
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