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Mail From: (email redacted) (Scott Fleming x255)

Hello everyone,

After reading a post from Dan Jones regarding Clevelands,
I since have a couple of questions. By the way, thanks for
the info Dan!

1. What is the difference between 351C 2V and 4V heads?

2. Can/Has anyone convert the 351C to accept EFI? I'm pretty
new to this and was wondering if I could put the Cleveland
heads on a 351W, then add the GT-40 intake, and EFI...

3. I hear that the Cleveland heads flow rrreal good, are they better
than most aftermarket heads(GT-40, Darts, Edlebrok...)

4. Whats the common setup? 351C heads on a 351W block. Can I
use the cleveland head with a 302?

It seems that everything I hear about the Cleveland is that the
heads are great, flow great, high RPM, lots of oil/cooling problems,
not great at idle or on the street...

There is one thing for sure, there is not a lot of information out there
on them. Not many people are doing buildups with them...

Thanks for any information, have a good weekend.
-scottf
95 Windstar
90 Escort
89 Mustang LX 302

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Mail From: chucko (Chuck Fry)

As long as we're at it, one other question for the Cleveland
cognoscienti. I have this vague recollection that the 351M and 400 use
Cleveland-style heads, comparable to the early 351C-2V heads except for
a bigger combustion chamber. Am I confused?
-- Chuck

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Mail From: (email redacted) (Dave Williams)


-> cognoscienti. I have this vague recollection that the 351M and 400
-> use Cleveland-style heads, comparable to the early 351C-2V heads
-> except for a bigger combustion chamber. Am I confused?

Since you're sitting on the Ford Head FYI it should be easy enough to
check. <grin>

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Mail From: Kelly Murray <(email redacted)>


> As long as we're at it, one other question for the Cleveland
> cognoscienti. I have this vague recollection that the 351M and 400 use
> Cleveland-style heads, comparable to the early 351C-2V heads except for
> a bigger combustion chamber. Am I confused?

No confusion. This makes open-chamber 351C-2v type heads abundant
at the wrecking yards. Lots of LTD wagons with 400's sitting around
waiting for somebody to do something with.

And frankly, why not build a 400? They are heavier than the 351W,
but you've already got a 4" stroke and 400ci, and those heavy breathing
heads. Pop on the early closed-chamber heads to get the compression up
to performance standards, and should be a good runner for low bucks.
A little extra stroking fun with perhaps some off-the-shelf parts,
and get maybe 427ci. They are a lot shorter than the 460's, which
would given them a much better weight-transfer fit
in the late-model Mustangs. C'mon, someone out there must want to
build something no one else has...

-Kelly Murray (email redacted)
'72 Mustang 460 Gainesville, Florida