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Mail From: ROLindsay (Rick Lindsay)

That is the model I am going to use on our '66 coupe and
it is the model I am going to use on my 308GTB (getting rid
of the monster, boat anchor that's on it now) and added to
the Lotus Europa project. As tiny as that interior is, I should
be able to 'hang meat' inside of 1 minute!

Rick

> Hi all--
>
> My venerable York compressor on the 66 is making more horrible noises
> than usual, so I think it is about to die.
>
> I've never really liked it--it is loud and since I switched to 134a,
it
> doesn't cool as well--not its fault, I know.
>
> I see Sandens that will swap out. What do y'all think of them? Any
> place to get them that is better than the others?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --Paul

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Mail From: mstrawn1 (mstrawn1)

I put a Sanden on my Ford truck already. It's good and cold. The mustang will be next, with the same setup.
Michael Strawn (Fordman)
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Mail From: mtrostel (Matt Trostel)

Since we're on the topic, I've got a York in my '66 which is still running
R12. It loses Freon very slowly (after 5 years or so it doesn't cool
sufficiently any more). That seems pretty good to me so I topped it off with
R12 instead of going with Freeze 12 or R134.

When R12 can't be had any more, I'd be open to replacing the compressor and
hoses to do a conversion right. Since you guys have some experience with
conversions and different refrigerants, what would you recommend? R134 is
certainly to most widely available. How does it cool in a new Sanden? Would
something like Freeze 12 or Frig-C cool better? Living in Texas, cold A/C is
a big plus.

Thanks,
Matt

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Mail From: ckelly (Chris Kelly)

Freeze 12 is a drop in R12 replacement. To get decent cooling with R-134A,
you need a more efficient (read "bigger/more fins" condenser in front of
the radiator. Vintage Air sells them. R-134A works OK with the old stock
Mustang condenser, but not well - IMHO. The condenser on our truck is the
size of a 1/2 sheet of plywood.
At 09:05 PM 5/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Since we're on the topic, I've got a York in my '66 which is still running
>R12. It loses Freon very slowly (after 5 years or so it doesn't cool
>sufficiently any more). That seems pretty good to me so I topped it off with
>R12 instead of going with Freeze 12 or R134.
>
>When R12 can't be had any more, I'd be open to replacing the compressor and
>hoses to do a conversion right. Since you guys have some experience with
>conversions and different refrigerants, what would you recommend? R134 is
>certainly to most widely available. How does it cool in a new Sanden? Would
>something like Freeze 12 or Frig-C cool better? Living in Texas, cold A/C is
>a big plus.
>
>Thanks,
>Matt
>
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Mail From: psawyer (Dr. Paul R. Sawyer)

M--

If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't switch until I couldn't get
r12. It doesn't cool as well.

Here was my logic. Everything seeps on my car--powersteering, valve
covers, oil pan. Why should this be any different? I can't afford to
add 1-2 pounds of freon every season, so we'll go to 134a and when I
have to add, it'll be reasonable.

Wouldn't you know that the AC system is the ONLY thing that is
completely tight is the AC? Go figure.

Anyway, 134a works. r12a works much, much, much better.

--P

PS I'm in South Louisiana, so I know the heat.

On Tuesday, May 6, 2003, at 09:05 PM, Matt Trostel wrote:

> Since we're on the topic, I've got a York in my '66 which is still
> running
> R12. It loses Freon very slowly (after 5 years or so it doesn't cool
> sufficiently any more). That seems pretty good to me so I topped it
> off with
> R12 instead of going with Freeze 12 or R134.
>
> When R12 can't be had any more, I'd be open to replacing the
> compressor and
> hoses to do a conversion right. Since you guys have some experience
> with
> conversions and different refrigerants, what would you recommend? R134
> is
> certainly to most widely available. How does it cool in a new Sanden?
> Would
> something like Freeze 12 or Frig-C cool better? Living in Texas, cold
> A/C is
> a big plus.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
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Mail From: W427 ((email redacted))

I think the refrigerant issue is very system dependent and installation dependent. My dad had an A/C shop-converted system (R12 to R134a) that was lousy until a friend of his suggested leaking some coolant out. Sure enough the system got so cold it would blow fog out the vents and eventually freeze you on a Miami summer day. His friend said that A/C shops commonly overpressure the systems, so if you had a small leak, you hopefully wouldn't find it until the 90 day warranty was out. I guess that was the case this time. >:-( I have done two 134 conversions and both were fine, but I used a standard A/C gauge set to get the numbers right. Note - I am NOT a cold air expert - just my 2¢ here...

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On 5/6/03 at 10:34 PM Dr. Paul R. Sawyer wrote:

>M--
>
>If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't switch until I couldn't get
>r12. It doesn't cool as well.
>
>Here was my logic. Everything seeps on my car--powersteering, valve
>covers, oil pan. Why should this be any different? I can't afford to
>add 1-2 pounds of freon every season, so we'll go to 134a and when I
>have to add, it'll be reasonable.
>
>Wouldn't you know that the AC system is the ONLY thing that is
>completely tight is the AC? Go figure.
>
>Anyway, 134a works. r12a works much, much, much better.
>
>--P
>
>PS I'm in South Louisiana, so I know the heat.
>
>On Tuesday, May 6, 2003, at 09:05 PM, Matt Trostel wrote:
>
>> Since we're on the topic, I've got a York in my '66 which is still
>> running
>> R12. It loses Freon very slowly (after 5 years or so it doesn't cool
>> sufficiently any more). That seems pretty good to me so I topped it
>> off with
>> R12 instead of going with Freeze 12 or R134.
>>
>> When R12 can't be had any more, I'd be open to replacing the
>> compressor and
>> hoses to do a conversion right. Since you guys have some experience
>> with
>> conversions and different refrigerants, what would you recommend? R134
>> is
>> certainly to most widely available. How does it cool in a new Sanden?
>> Would
>> something like Freeze 12 or Frig-C cool better? Living in Texas, cold
>> A/C is
>> a big plus.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
>>
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