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Mail From: eric (Eric E. Neumeister)

Interesting after reading the TCP threads earlier:-)
Eric
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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:56 PM
Subject: Total Control Products - Announcement


> Yesterday's Classics, Today's Technology...
> -------------------------------------------
>
> Effective: June 10, 2004
>
>
> -------------------------------------
> New Source for Total Control Products
> -------------------------------------
> Chris Alston's Chassisworks, Inc. (Chassisworks) has purchased the
exclusive rights to manufacture and distribute the entire Total Control
Products family of components.
>
> totalcontrolproducts.com
>
>
> --------------------
> Who is Chassisworks?
> --------------------
> Chassisworks' is one of the industry leaders in aftermarket suspension
manufacturing and distribution. Beginning in 1987, Chris Alston, set out to
build a line of easy-to-install, easy-to-use products for aftermarket
automotive enthusiasts. 17 years later, Chris Alston's Chassisworks has
built a solid reputation for building high-quality, cutting edge, user
friendly products. Chassisworks has the most advanced, state of the art
facility to manufacture aftermarket suspension. This will assure the
continued quality that you have come to expect in the TCP brand.
Additionally, Chassisworks is known for its ability to ship 98% of its
orders the next day. After initial stocking, TCP products will be available
immediately.
>
> If you would like to find out more about Chassisworks, a Shop Tour is
available on their website.
>
> cachassisworks.com
>
>
> ------------------------
> How do I place an order?
> ------------------------
> Currently orders can be placed via the web or snail mail. As soon as
Chassisworks has input all the necessary information into our order-entry
system you will be able to place your orders by phone. We expect to be able
to take phone orders starting June 21st.
>
> Secure Online Ordering is available from any of our products pages.
> totalcontrolproducts.com/products.html
>
> Mail-In Orders must be submitted to:
> Chris Alston's Chassisworks, Inc.
> 8661 Younger Creek Drive
> Sacramento CA 95828
>
>
> -----------
> New Pricing
> -----------
> There currently is a global shortage of steel and other raw materials.
Some materials have increased almost 50%. Due to this market condition the
pricing of many items will have to be increased. The good news is
Chassisworks will, for a short time, honor the existing TCP website pricing.
This is a temporary smokin' deal! Don't miss out. You snooze, you lose. As
soon as we can re-cost all of the parts the prices will increase. Pricing
will be effective on the date we receive your order, not the price in effect
on the shipping date.
>
>
> -----------------
> Shipping Timeline
> -----------------
> Some products will be available to ship in 45-60 days. Others may take 120
days or longer. The delivery is mostly affected by subcontractor components.
Chassisworks can manufacture, in-house, more parts than TCP could. This will
shorten the lead time. We will update delivery times as more information
becomes available.
>
>
> ----------------------------------
> I have an existing order at TCP...
> ----------------------------------
> Chassisworks did not buy TCP. We only purchased the exclusive
manufacturing rights and everything necessary to produce the products.
Therefore it will be necessary for you to reorder from Chassisworks. See
"How do I place an order?"
>
>
> -----------------------------------
> Spare or missing parts availability
> -----------------------------------
> Request for individual component parts can only be made by email. The TCP
product has undergone many part number changes and a great deal of research
is required to determine the correct item number. When requesting component
information, please provide as much information as possible about the item
you are looking for. Digital photos, old parts numbers, approximate time of
initial order, make and model of vehicle, or any other information will be
helpful. We will fill these as soon as the components become available.
>
>
> -------------
> Tech Support?
> -------------
> For the foreseeable future tech support will only be available online via
email or the tech support forum. It will take some time to train the
Chassisworks' sales and tech support staff. Our techs will need time to
research your questions so please send as much information as possible. We
will expand our tech forum with any relevant new information.
>
> Email: (email redacted)
> Tech Support Forum: totalcontrolproducts.com/support.html
>
>
> --------------------------------------
> I was a TCP Distributor, what do I do?
> --------------------------------------
> If you are an existing TCP Distributor you can become a Chassisworks
dealer for TCP products and our other brands. Subject to verification or
your prior dealer status. Contact Chassisworks' Sales Manager, Jim Wright at
(916) 388-0288.
>
>
> -----------------------------------
> I was a TCP Supplier, what do I do?
> -----------------------------------
> If you were a supplier of components to TCP, please email us a list of
items you provided. Include the part number, description, price and
quantities. Chassisworks is interested in establishing relationships with
all prior suppliers.
>
> Email: (email redacted)
>
>
> ---------------------
> TCP Product Imitators
> ---------------------
> Whenever a popular product becomes unavailable, even for a short period of
time, opportunists will try to fill the void with imitations. Do not be
fooled by their claims. Only Chassisworks owns the patents and has the
complete engineering and design specifications along with the required
fixtures, tooling and test stands to correctly manufacture the products. The
TCP product line is comprised of approximately 1,000 individual components.
No copy company is clever enough to get everything right. They always claim
their new part is better. How can that be when they don't have the
experience that comes from being the first to market with years of refining
into a mature product? Just because someone can make something that looks
similar to a TCP product, doesn't mean they have a comparable product with
detailed instructions and expert tech support. Chassisworks acquired all
product knowledge with the TCP product line. We will use this information to
continually refine existing pr
> oducts and develop new ones.
>
>
> -------------------
> Updated Information
> -------------------
> Any future announcements or updates will be posted on the Total Control
Products website. Check back often as more information will be released
soon.
>
> totalcontrolproducts.com
>
> For the latest product information visit us at...
> www.totalcontrolproducts.com
>
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Mail From: mach70 (mark thispot)



>Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:21:18 -0400
>From: "Eric E. Neumeister" <(email redacted)>
>Subject: [CM] Fw: Total Control Products - Announcement
>To: "A list for owners of Classic Mustangs"
> <(email redacted)>
>Message-ID: <00bd01c44f28$7ce057e0$(email redacted)>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
>Interesting after reading the TCP threads earlier:-)
>Eric

Enormous SNIP

> > -----------
> > New Pricing
> > -----------
> > There currently is a global shortage of steel and other raw materials.
>Some materials have increased almost 50%. Due to this market condition the
>pricing of many items will have to be increased. The good news is
>Chassisworks will, for a short time, honor the existing TCP website
>pricing.
>This is a temporary smokin' deal! Don't miss out. You snooze, you lose. As
>soon as we can re-cost all of the parts the prices will increase. Pricing
>will be effective on the date we receive your order, not the price in
>effect
>on the shipping date.
> >
> >

Wow they're gonna honor TCP's exhorbitant pricing & promise it will soon
increase!
A smokin deal, indeed!

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Mail From: kevin (Kevin Dudak)

I guess I have a different idea of what makes a smoking deal.

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>Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:21:18 -0400
>From: "Eric E. Neumeister" <(email redacted)>
>Subject: [CM] Fw: Total Control Products - Announcement
>To: "A list for owners of Classic Mustangs"
> <(email redacted)>
>Message-ID: <00bd01c44f28$7ce057e0$(email redacted)>
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>
>Interesting after reading the TCP threads earlier:-)
>Eric

Enormous SNIP

> > -----------
> > New Pricing
> > -----------
> > There currently is a global shortage of steel and other raw materials.
>Some materials have increased almost 50%. Due to this market condition the
>pricing of many items will have to be increased. The good news is
>Chassisworks will, for a short time, honor the existing TCP website
>pricing.
>This is a temporary smokin' deal! Don't miss out. You snooze, you lose. As
>soon as we can re-cost all of the parts the prices will increase. Pricing
>will be effective on the date we receive your order, not the price in
>effect
>on the shipping date.
> >
> >

Wow they're gonna honor TCP's exhorbitant pricing & promise it will soon
increase!
A smokin deal, indeed!

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Mail From: rob.edwards666 (Rob Edwards)

Even if the raw materials went up a 100% that would only make 1-2 % cost
increase in the finished product. There isn't more than $20 worth of raw
material in a steering rack and pinion system. I used to do a lot of
work for a steering component manufacturer. They used post the
manufacturing costs of the steering columns they made with a sample, on
the production area wall. A well known Car brand (A big cat) I can say
no more, used to cost $6 to make. They could weld one complete in less
than 30 seconds !

Rob

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Subject: RE: [CM] RE: Fw: Total Control Products - Announcement

I guess I have a different idea of what makes a smoking deal.

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>Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:21:18 -0400
>From: "Eric E. Neumeister" <(email redacted)>
>Subject: [CM] Fw: Total Control Products - Announcement
>To: "A list for owners of Classic Mustangs"
> <(email redacted)>
>Message-ID: <00bd01c44f28$7ce057e0$(email redacted)>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
>Interesting after reading the TCP threads earlier:-)
>Eric

Enormous SNIP

> > -----------
> > New Pricing
> > -----------
> > There currently is a global shortage of steel and other raw
materials.
>Some materials have increased almost 50%. Due to this market condition
the
>pricing of many items will have to be increased. The good news is
>Chassisworks will, for a short time, honor the existing TCP website
>pricing.
>This is a temporary smokin' deal! Don't miss out. You snooze, you lose.
As
>soon as we can re-cost all of the parts the prices will increase.
Pricing
>will be effective on the date we receive your order, not the price in
>effect
>on the shipping date.
> >
> >

Wow they're gonna honor TCP's exhorbitant pricing & promise it will soon

increase!
A smokin deal, indeed!

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Mail From: walt.boeninger (Walt Boeninger)

My last comment on the sale of TCP to Chassisworks.

I was less than 1/2 right when I mentioned Precision Machine
buying TCP. They bought the machinery (and apparently
the black fastback) but not anything directly related to
the product itself. Which makes more sense since
PM is not a manufacturer like Chassisworks.

And Mustangs Plus is not connected at all AFAIK. For now.

Walt
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Mail From: jem (John Miller)

> Even if the raw materials went up a 100% that would only make 1-2 % cost
> increase in the finished product. There isn't more than $20 worth of raw
> material in a steering rack and pinion system.

I think we're talking apples and oranges here.

The TCP setup involves a bunch of bits and parts including crossmember,
bracketry, etc. Not just the rack, etc.

Raw material pricing at OE quantities is also quite a bit different from
what you get when you're doing batches of, say, 10 at a time.

And, of course, all the suppliers of the other subassemblies you need
are using higher material prices as an excuse to raise their prices, too.

You also need to cover your development and production costs out of
sales measured in tens or, if you're fortunate, hundreds of units.

Still, I wouldn't say the TCP setup is any kind of bargain, I think the
J-car-based rack setups are a preferable design.

John.