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Mail From: Franck DJ (Don) (email redacted)

I am in a situation where I may need to do a total rebuild on my 69 Mach 1
engine (351W). On the othere hand I can buy a long block and install it for
about $1300 and keep the old engine for later rebuild or I could turn the
old engine in for a core charge and get the total cost down to about $1050.
The car is a daily driver. What are the pros and cons of doing a rebuild vs
buying a long block.

Long block
Cheaper?
Much quicker to do.

Rebuild
More Expensive
Car would still have original block
Better Resale????

Does it really matter on a 69 Mach that is not a concours car, whether the
block is original?????

Help me out.

Don Franck
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Pantera #1777
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do it".


> -----Original Message-----
> From: (email redacted) [SMTPemail redacted)]
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 7:01 AM
> To: (email redacted)
> Subject: Re: [CM:18701] Parking brake cable...
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> Could it be bad motor, and, or trans mount? Maybe the driveshaft is to
> low?
> Just a thought.
>
> Paul Bradway
> 70 coupe
> 72 LTD convertible
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In a message dated 10/07/1999 9:20:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
(email redacted) writes:

> Does it really matter on a 69 Mach that is not a concours car, whether the
> block is original?????

Not now, but how about 10 years down the road. Been there, dune that, bought
a T-shirt. 10 years ago I started drag racing my 70 coupe. Rip, hack, tear.
guess what, now I'm restoring it.

Paul Bradway
70 coupe
72 LTD convertible

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"Franck DJ (Don)" <(email redacted)> wrote:
>....Does it really matter on a 69 Mach that is not a concours car, whether
>the block is original?????

I think it does - a little. If you ever sell, it'll be one more thing
you'll have going for you. In '69, the car's consecutive build number
(those last 6 digits in your VIN number) is stamped on top of the block
right behind the intake manifold - near the firewall. Once the original
motor is gone, you'll never see it again.

An added bonus if you rebuild the original motor - you'll retain the right
to recite the sacred mantra: Matching Numbers! Matching Numbers!

If you use a replacement long block, I vote to keep the old motor around if
you can.

Don Daves <(email redacted)>
Rio Del Mar, CA
65 Sunbeam Tiger (his)
66 Corvette conv. (hers)
69 Mustang bench-seat coupe (daughters)
69 Ranchero GT390 (mothballed)



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> (email redacted) writes:
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> > Does it really matter on a 69 Mach that is not a concours car, whether the
> > block is original?????


Only possibly to the next owner

Jeff Speegle
MCA ANHJ

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speegle wrote:
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> > (email redacted) writes:
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> > > Does it really matter on a 69 Mach that is not a concours car, whether the
> > > block is original?????
>
> Only possibly to the next owner

And if we worried about him, our cars would all be concours perfect and
we would let them sit in the garage for fear we might get a scratch on
"his" car.

Tony

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Tony wrote:
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> speegle wrote:
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> > > (email redacted) writes:
> > >
> > > > Does it really matter on a 69 Mach that is not a concours car, whether the
> > > > block is original?????
> >
> > Only possibly to the next owner
>
> And if we worried about him, our cars would all be concours perfect and
> we would let them sit in the garage for fear we might get a scratch on
> "his" car.
>

Worried no. A concern Yes IMHO

Guess it depends on the car and our outlook. Is the car a tool, a toy or
an investment

Jeff Speegle
MCA ANHJ

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speegle wrote:
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> Tony wrote:
> >
> > speegle wrote:
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> Worried no. A concern Yes IMHO
>
> Guess it depends on the car and our outlook. Is the car a tool, a toy or
> an investment

Mine is a tool and a toy. It gets me to work every day so it's a tool.
There are better, more reliable, safer and more comfortables vehicles
that would also get me to work. But, I just love that drool factor of
the ol' Mach I...therefore it's a toy. Investment? There are much better
places to invest one's hard earned money.

Tony

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That the problem with the MUSTANG SHows today... These cars are twice as good as the ones that came off the assembly line. The rules are getting out of hand. I'm not talking about the thoughbread cars just Concourse driven down. So what if the cars are all Gold winners. I say Good for the owner.

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At 04:21 AM 10/9/99 -0300, (email redacted) wrote:
>...
>An added bonus if you rebuild the original motor - you'll retain the right
>to recite the sacred mantra: Matching Numbers! Matching Numbers!
>...

uh oh... we're starting to sound just like those Corvette guys...

-jason
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(email redacted) wrote:
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> That the problem with the MUSTANG SHows today... These cars are twice as good as the ones that came off the assembly line. The rules are getting out of hand. I'm not talking about the thoughbread cars just Concourse driven down. So what if the cars are all Gold winners. I say Good for the owner.


Yes there are some cars that are over restored but I am always surprised
when I get a chance to see an untouched original car and how well the
body fit and finish is.

Really can't agree with the rules being getting out of hand. How would
you change them, exactly? Please remember that the rules are as much a
guide for owners and builders as they are for judges. And owners are
always asking for more details to be included.

A general observation about anything short of Concours were the goal
should be nothing less than perfection IMHO. No matter where we place
the line between one class or another. Or we CHOOSE what is acceptable
and what is not there is always someones car that is just over the
"line" or just under.

And it seems that the guy just over is not happy about it and the guy
just under is very happy. Since these lines are just made up to best
represent the majority of cars attending shows a little movement can
make someone very unpopular

Jeff Speegle
MCA ANHJ

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I agree that the rules are guidelines. I guess my problem is with the judges. I did my car this way therefor you should have your this way. As an example the engine compartment in my 68 is 60/40 semi-gloss black. Not all parts are the same shade black, such as the radiator, radiator support or horns. These part came from differnet vendors and are a slightly different shade. Not much but when you bring this to the judges attention he/she still hit you for it. THIS is wrong. Another item is the engine color for 68 289/302 actually it is a different color than earlier and later years, but went back to the orginal color in 69.

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Did you know that your messages display as one continuous line that does not
wrap? A rule of thumb I have used for many years is to keep lines less than
80 characters, terminated with a hard carriage return. This way no matter
who is reading it with whatever equipment, they see the whole message, the
way you intended them to see it. Just one opinion ...

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