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Is there are good book on frame off restoration or taking the car apart to
paint it. I have bought a 66 Mustang GT Convertible.

Everything in the interior has been removed. I would like to change the
interior color but don't want to paint the whole car now. Is there some
simple way of dealing with this before I reassemble it. The car does not run
yet. It has wheels and can be rolled.

Rolland Fellows, PhD
4131 Spicewood Springs Rd.
Suite G-6
Austin, Tx. 78759
wk 512.346.1796
fax 512.346.4076

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Is there are good book on frame off restoration or taking the car apart to
<BR>paint it. &nbsp;I have bought a 66 Mustang GT Convertible. &nbsp;
<BR>
<BR>Everything in the interior has been removed. &nbsp;I would like to change the
<BR>interior color but don't want to paint the whole car now. &nbsp;Is there some
<BR>simple way of dealing with this before I reassemble it. &nbsp;The car does not run
<BR>yet. &nbsp;It has wheels and can be rolled.
<BR>
<BR>Rolland Fellows, PhD
<BR>4131 Spicewood Springs Rd.
<BR>Suite G-6
<BR>Austin, Tx. 78759
<BR>wk &nbsp;512.346.1796
<BR>fax 512.346.4076</FONT></HTML>

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Rolland, Its really important to get the sequence down. Both ground up
restorations I have done (learned a lot on the first one) interior is always
last. Once the engine was removed and all the interior is out, head for the
body shop. I bagged and tagged all the parts and into storage they went.
Then I even took off fenders, valances, mirrors, 1/4 extensions and bead
blasted all those pieces myself. bumpers removed, head lamp buckets. I then
delivered all the pieces to the body shop. this way all the parts got
individual attention. Then I reassembled the car, using all new hardware. in
the meantime the engine was torn down and rebuilt. Trannie was refurbished.
then new brake drums and linings and the rear end was removed and cleaned up.
New leaf springs and back in. And so on with the front. then back in with
the motor, trannie, and finally the interior. It included new door panels,
new hardware, pieces that had been rechromed back in....3 years later...done.

As far as wheels and tires...on my coupe I ran 15x7 205x15 front, 15x8 225x15
rear. Seemed to fit good. If the car is set for the GT setting in the front,
the tire may rub slightly if you hit a deep hole or steep driveway while
turning...otherwise OK.

Ron

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Rolland, Its really important to get the sequence down. Both ground up
<BR>restorations I have done (learned a lot on the first one) interior is always
<BR>last. Once the engine was removed and all the interior is out, head for the
<BR>body shop. I bagged and tagged all the parts and into storage they went. &nbsp;
<BR>Then I even took off fenders, valances, mirrors, 1/4 extensions and bead
<BR>blasted all those pieces myself. bumpers removed, head lamp buckets. I then
<BR>delivered all the pieces to the body shop. this way all the parts got
<BR>individual attention. Then I reassembled the car, using all new hardware. in
<BR>the meantime the engine was torn down and rebuilt. Trannie was refurbished.
<BR>then new brake drums and linings and the rear end was removed and cleaned up.
<BR>New leaf springs and back in. And so on with the front. &nbsp;&nbsp;then back in with
<BR>the motor, trannie, and finally the interior. It included new door panels,
<BR>new hardware, pieces that had been rechromed back in....3 years later...done.
<BR>
<BR>As far as wheels and tires...on my coupe I ran 15x7 205x15 front, 15x8 225x15
<BR>rear. Seemed to fit good. If the car is set for the GT setting in the front,
<BR>the tire may rub slightly if you hit a deep hole or steep driveway while
<BR>turning...otherwise OK.
<BR>
<BR>Ron</FONT></HTML>

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Sorry reread your origianl post

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> Is there are good book on frame off restoration or taking the car
> apart to
> paint it. I have bought a 66 Mustang GT Convertible.
>

Best choice IMHO would be the older book "How to restore your Mustang"

Not a great restoration book (but then none are as of yet) but it sounds
like your not doing a real restoration anyway winking smiley


>
> Everything in the interior has been removed. I would like to change
> the
> interior color but don't want to paint the whole car now. Is there
> some
> simple way of dealing with this before I reassemble it.

No real problem as the exterior and interior are really two different
things.

The only parts "attached" to the body are the inside surface of the door
and the dash. The rest can be removed and painted as you see fit.
Remember to remove all the paint in the grain before you apply any new
color. This delicate garin fills up quickly and can disappear on you if
your not careful. The book will explain removing the door handles, arm
rests, and door panels. Also the dash bezel, switches, dash pad and
glove box door. Seat come ot easily after you have gained access
through the holes in the floor (from under the car) Rear seat bottom
pops out - push back pull up and the rear half is held in place with
two screws at the base. Quarter panels are fairly easy too


Jeff Speegle
MCA ANHJ

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Sorry reread your origianl post
<p>(email redacted) wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>Is there
are good book on frame off restoration or taking the car apart to</font></font>
<br><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>paint it.&nbsp; I have bought
a 66 Mustang GT Convertible.</font></font>
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Best choice IMHO would be the older book&nbsp; "How to restore your Mustang"
<p>Not a great restoration book (but then none are as of yet) but it sounds
like your not doing a real restoration anyway&nbsp; winking smiley
<br>&nbsp;
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
<br><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>Everything in the interior
has been removed.&nbsp; I would like to change the</font></font>
<br><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>interior color but don't
want to paint the whole car now.&nbsp; Is there some</font></font>
<br><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>simple way of dealing with
this before I reassemble it.</font></font></blockquote>

<p><br>No real problem as the exterior and interior are really two different
things.
<p>The only parts "attached" to the body are the inside surface of the
door and the dash. The rest can be removed and painted as you see fit.
Remember to remove all the paint in the grain before you apply any new
color. This delicate garin fills up quickly and can disappear on you if
your not careful. The book will explain removing the door handles, arm
rests, and door panels. Also the dash bezel, switches, dash pad and glove
box door.&nbsp; Seat come ot easily after you have gained access through
the holes in the floor (from under the car) Rear seat bottom pops out&nbsp;
- push back pull up and the rear half is held in place with two screws
at the base. Quarter panels are fairly easy too
<br>&nbsp;
<p>Jeff Speegle
<br>MCA&nbsp; ANHJ</html>

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The book "How to Paint Your Car" is pretty good
as these things
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hi guys,

i'm actually delivering a '66 to the body shop today. i left the interior and
engine bay for after it comes back already painted. i figured i would just
mask off the painted areas when i go to detail the doors and engine bay.

the car is completely stripped as some of you have described. all the
removable panels are in the trunk to be painted individually.

more advice on detailing the doors would be appreciated...
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> Is there are good book on frame off restoration or taking the car apart to
> paint it. I have bought a 66 Mustang GT Convertible.

There are a few. Building your Mustang library is about the best thing
you can do. I buy every piece of literature I can get on the Ford Mustang.
My library has over 100 Mustang books, and > 7,000 magazines with articles
written from 1962 to yesterday. Then there's the factory literature, videos
and ads from magazines.

Get your Visa card, call one of the big Mustang mailorder houses and get
a few books from the list below (off the top of my head):

1) "How to Restore Your Mustang" by the editors of Mustang Monthly
(California Mustang Publishing) ~$20. Reflects the state of the
hobby when it was written (early 80's).

2) "Mustang Restoration Handbook" by Tom Wilson & someone else (HP Books)
~$20. Good book for everything mechanical - no painting / body, except
a brief section on welding in a new rear quarter.

3) 1966 Ford Shop Manual - this is a repro by Jim Osborn Reproductions
~$25. You'll need it.

4) "Mustang Restoration Guide" by Tom Cocoran (HP Books). ~$35 Big
telephone book like volume with countless facts, photos, and illus.
It's onerous to use if you don't know what you're looking for; price-
less if you do. Go for the 2nd edition. The title may not be correct.

5) "1966 Mustang Fact Book" - repro by Jim Osborn Reproductions ~$5
The sales & marketing literature for your car with a few good pictures
and specifications.

6) "Mustang Does It" By Ray Miller (?) ~$45. This hardbound book published
in 1978 is an excellent reference because nearly all of the cars are un-
restored, and show you what the originals looked like.

7) "Mustang Monthly How Tos" Volume I & II (Dobbs Publishing Group) ~$15 ea
These two thin books are reprints of Mustang Monthly articles from the
80's like installing grease fittings, replacing shifter bushings, de-
tailing your engine compartment, etc. One book is yellow, and one book
is blue.

8) "The Best of Mustang Monthly" (Dobbs Publishing Group) ~$20 - Continues
the where #7 left off.

If you bought everything on this list, the $200 or so you spent would yield
the most bang-for-the-buck of any $200 you spend on your car.

> Everything in the interior has been removed. I would like to change the
> interior color but don't want to paint the whole car now. Is there some
> simple way of dealing with this before I reassemble it. The car does not run
> yet. It has wheels and can be rolled.

I'd spend my time on the mechanicals first, then do the interior. If you
have to, just bolt the driver's seat in place.

California Mustang makes a 3-video series on Mustang interior restoration:
Upholstry & interior panels, Dash Area, & Convertible Tops. I bought all 3
on a Christmas special for $16. This will help.

If you've never done seats before, and don't have unlimited time, I'd
recommend finding a trim shop, buying the seat covers and having him do
the bucks and rear seat. It's not as expensive as you think. Ditto for
the headliner. The carpet, underlay, door panels, kick panels and dash
you could do yourself on a Saturday. Then just bolt in the newly recovered
seats and you're done.

Hope this helps!

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