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Mail From: a_64_n_a_half (Mustang)
OK, I have an intake, and a carb to put on my 64.5 289 (Coupe/4V/TopLoader). Besides intake manifold gaskets, what else do I need to do this in a day?
Will I need to take off the heads?
Do I need new rocker arm gaskets?
I know I need silicon to seal the front and rear of the intake, but what kind?
And... should I put silicon on both mating surfaces, or just one.
Honestly, I am sure the steps for this job were posted before, but I don't know how to "search" for them.
If you just want to point me toward a hyperlink for these answers, I'd be happy. But, on the other hand, this board has been AWFULLY quiet lately!!
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Mail From: a_64_n_a_half (Mustang)
OK, I have an intake, and a carb to put on my 64.5 289 (Coupe/4V/TopLoader). Besides intake manifold gaskets, what else do I need to do this in a day?
Will I need to take off the heads?
Do I need new rocker arm gaskets?
I know I need silicon to seal the front and rear of the intake, but what kind?
And... should I put silicon on both mating surfaces, or just one.
Honestly, I am sure the steps for this job were posted before, but I don't know how to "search" for them.
If you just want to point me toward a hyperlink for these answers, I'd be happy. But, on the other hand, this board has been AWFULLY quiet lately!!
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Mail From: shawkins6 (Steve Hawkins)
The intake manifold gasket kit is all you should need. It will probably
come with the silicon also.
Steve Hawkins
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Subject: [CM] Old Topic?
OK, I have an intake, and a carb to put on my 64.5 289
(Coupe/4V/TopLoader). Besides intake manifold gaskets, what else do I
need to do this in a day?
Will I need to take off the heads?
Do I need new rocker arm gaskets?
I know I need silicon to seal the front and rear of the intake, but what
kind?
And... should I put silicon on both mating surfaces, or just one.
Honestly, I am sure the steps for this job were posted before, but I
don't know how to "search" for them.
If you just want to point me toward a hyperlink for these answers, I'd
be happy. But, on the other hand, this board has been AWFULLY quiet
lately!!
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Mail From: shawkins6 (Steve Hawkins)
The intake manifold gasket kit is all you should need. It will probably
come with the silicon also.
Steve Hawkins
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Subject: [CM] Old Topic?
OK, I have an intake, and a carb to put on my 64.5 289
(Coupe/4V/TopLoader). Besides intake manifold gaskets, what else do I
need to do this in a day?
Will I need to take off the heads?
Do I need new rocker arm gaskets?
I know I need silicon to seal the front and rear of the intake, but what
kind?
And... should I put silicon on both mating surfaces, or just one.
Honestly, I am sure the steps for this job were posted before, but I
don't know how to "search" for them.
If you just want to point me toward a hyperlink for these answers, I'd
be happy. But, on the other hand, this board has been AWFULLY quiet
lately!!
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Mail From: w427 (David)
You also need carb gaskets and confirm you have proper linkage setup & fuel filter or lines. Gasket scraper & lots of rags or ppr towels to stuff in the valley and ports while cleaning the head surfaces. Thermostat gasket & more sealer. Use sealer on the temp sender & heater fittings. Might need PCV fitting if old one was in manifold but not in new one.
No.
No.
Any oil/fuel resistant type silicone OR adhesive sealer if using cork or rubber end gaskets.
One surface is sufficient.
Have fun ;-)
David
PS: Look everything over to see if something doesn't seem to fit the scheme. Don't get a hernia taking the old cast iron one off!
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On 12/6/2004 at 9:49 PM Mustang wrote:
OK, I have an intake, and a carb to put on my 64.5 289 (Coupe/4V/TopLoader). Besides intake manifold gaskets, what else do I need to do this in a day?
Will I need to take off the heads?
Do I need new rocker arm gaskets?
I know I need silicon to seal the front and rear of the intake, but what kind?
And... should I put silicon on both mating surfaces, or just one.
Honestly, I am sure the steps for this job were posted before, but I don't know how to "search" for them.
If you just want to point me toward a hyperlink for these answers, I'd be happy. But, on the other hand, this board has been AWFULLY quiet lately!!
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Mail From: w427 (David)
You also need carb gaskets and confirm you have proper linkage setup & fuel filter or lines. Gasket scraper & lots of rags or ppr towels to stuff in the valley and ports while cleaning the head surfaces. Thermostat gasket & more sealer. Use sealer on the temp sender & heater fittings. Might need PCV fitting if old one was in manifold but not in new one.
No.
No.
Any oil/fuel resistant type silicone OR adhesive sealer if using cork or rubber end gaskets.
One surface is sufficient.
Have fun ;-)
David
PS: Look everything over to see if something doesn't seem to fit the scheme. Don't get a hernia taking the old cast iron one off!
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On 12/6/2004 at 9:49 PM Mustang wrote:
OK, I have an intake, and a carb to put on my 64.5 289 (Coupe/4V/TopLoader). Besides intake manifold gaskets, what else do I need to do this in a day?
Will I need to take off the heads?
Do I need new rocker arm gaskets?
I know I need silicon to seal the front and rear of the intake, but what kind?
And... should I put silicon on both mating surfaces, or just one.
Honestly, I am sure the steps for this job were posted before, but I don't know how to "search" for them.
If you just want to point me toward a hyperlink for these answers, I'd be happy. But, on the other hand, this board has been AWFULLY quiet lately!!
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Mail From: a_64_n_a_half (Mustang)
Thanks David,
But:
(have carb gaskets, linkage, fuel lines, fuel filter, rages, and PVC Fitting, though I don't think that will need it!
But, um... could someone give me the step by step?
I'm fairly mechanical, and have the tools, but I was looking for someone who had the patience to "walk me through it".
What do I need to buy in advance? (Like... what's a good front anr rear seal?)
(Or... what kind of "silicon" do you buy?)
What steps do I need to take? (What are they?)
And, do "Torque" settings really matter? (Will a "Sears" torque wrench work? At what rating?)
Crap... I "think" I know how to do this, but....
If someone else has done it, I'd LOVE advice!!!!
PLEASE!!!
(Don't answer "YES, NO YES, YES, NO, YES, YES, NO!!!!!!!!!) (crap... I can't remember what I asked!)
KEN
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From: David
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CM] Old Topic?
You also need carb gaskets and confirm you have proper linkage setup & fuel filter or lines. Gasket scraper & lots of rags or ppr towels to stuff in the valley and ports while cleaning the head surfaces. Thermostat gasket & more sealer. Use sealer on the temp sender & heater fittings. Might need PCV fitting if old one was in manifold but not in new one.
No.
No.
Any oil/fuel resistant type silicone OR adhesive sealer if using cork or rubber end gaskets.
One surface is sufficient.
Have fun ;-)
David
PS: Look everything over to see if something doesn't seem to fit the scheme. Don't get a hernia taking the old cast iron one off!
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
On 12/6/2004 at 9:49 PM Mustang wrote:
OK, I have an intake, and a carb to put on my 64.5 289 (Coupe/4V/TopLoader). Besides intake manifold gaskets, what else do I need to do this in a day?
Will I need to take off the heads?
Do I need new rocker arm gaskets?
I know I need silicon to seal the front and rear of the intake, but what kind?
And... should I put silicon on both mating surfaces, or just one.
Honestly, I am sure the steps for this job were posted before, but I don't know how to "search" for them.
If you just want to point me toward a hyperlink for these answers, I'd be happy. But, on the other hand, this board has been AWFULLY quiet lately!!
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Mail From: a_64_n_a_half (Mustang)
Thanks David,
But:
(have carb gaskets, linkage, fuel lines, fuel filter, rages, and PVC Fitting, though I don't think that will need it!
But, um... could someone give me the step by step?
I'm fairly mechanical, and have the tools, but I was looking for someone who had the patience to "walk me through it".
What do I need to buy in advance? (Like... what's a good front anr rear seal?)
(Or... what kind of "silicon" do you buy?)
What steps do I need to take? (What are they?)
And, do "Torque" settings really matter? (Will a "Sears" torque wrench work? At what rating?)
Crap... I "think" I know how to do this, but....
If someone else has done it, I'd LOVE advice!!!!
PLEASE!!!
(Don't answer "YES, NO YES, YES, NO, YES, YES, NO!!!!!!!!!) (crap... I can't remember what I asked!)
KEN
----- Original Message -----
From: David
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CM] Old Topic?
You also need carb gaskets and confirm you have proper linkage setup & fuel filter or lines. Gasket scraper & lots of rags or ppr towels to stuff in the valley and ports while cleaning the head surfaces. Thermostat gasket & more sealer. Use sealer on the temp sender & heater fittings. Might need PCV fitting if old one was in manifold but not in new one.
No.
No.
Any oil/fuel resistant type silicone OR adhesive sealer if using cork or rubber end gaskets.
One surface is sufficient.
Have fun ;-)
David
PS: Look everything over to see if something doesn't seem to fit the scheme. Don't get a hernia taking the old cast iron one off!
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
On 12/6/2004 at 9:49 PM Mustang wrote:
OK, I have an intake, and a carb to put on my 64.5 289 (Coupe/4V/TopLoader). Besides intake manifold gaskets, what else do I need to do this in a day?
Will I need to take off the heads?
Do I need new rocker arm gaskets?
I know I need silicon to seal the front and rear of the intake, but what kind?
And... should I put silicon on both mating surfaces, or just one.
Honestly, I am sure the steps for this job were posted before, but I don't know how to "search" for them.
If you just want to point me toward a hyperlink for these answers, I'd be happy. But, on the other hand, this board has been AWFULLY quiet lately!!
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Mail From: mach70 (mark thispot)
Get a tube of hi-temp rtv. It's available in both blue and black to match
whichever color your block is. Apply about 3/8" bead to the block surface &
wait several minutes for the rtv to skin over--little less messy squeeze-out
this way. It's hard to get every spec of old gasket (and maybe glue) off
from around the ports but unless you want to do it again make sure both
surfaces are clean enough to eat off before starting. Some folks recommend
using a thin tacky glue-like stuff between the new gaskets & head. Keeps
the gasket from shifting as the intake is lowered & tightened. "Gasgacinch"
is one brand that comes to mind. Comes in a can with brush like pvc pipe
glue.
In addition to a top quality intake gasket set I'd get a new thermostat &
gasket and new bolts. You're supposed to put a dab of Loctite thread sealer
on any bolts that thread into a water jacket. Of course I never know which
ones those are :-)
A torque wrench would be a good idea. I can't recall for an iron intake but
for aluminum you're supposed to re-torque a second time after the engine has
been heated up & cooled back down.
Hope I haven't forgotten anything...
Mark
>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:49 PM
>To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
>Subject: [CM] Old Topic?
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>OK, I have an intake, and a carb to put on my 64.5 289
>(Coupe/4V/TopLoader). Besides intake manifold gaskets, what else do I
>need to do this in a day?
>
>Will I need to take off the heads?
>Do I need new rocker arm gaskets?
>I know I need silicon to seal the front and rear of the intake, but what
>kind?
>And... should I put silicon on both mating surfaces, or just one.
>
>Honestly, I am sure the steps for this job were posted before, but I
>don't know how to "search" for them.
>
>If you just want to point me toward a hyperlink for these answers, I'd
>be happy. But, on the other hand, this board has been AWFULLY quiet
>lately!!
>
Mail From: mach70 (mark thispot)
Get a tube of hi-temp rtv. It's available in both blue and black to match
whichever color your block is. Apply about 3/8" bead to the block surface &
wait several minutes for the rtv to skin over--little less messy squeeze-out
this way. It's hard to get every spec of old gasket (and maybe glue) off
from around the ports but unless you want to do it again make sure both
surfaces are clean enough to eat off before starting. Some folks recommend
using a thin tacky glue-like stuff between the new gaskets & head. Keeps
the gasket from shifting as the intake is lowered & tightened. "Gasgacinch"
is one brand that comes to mind. Comes in a can with brush like pvc pipe
glue.
In addition to a top quality intake gasket set I'd get a new thermostat &
gasket and new bolts. You're supposed to put a dab of Loctite thread sealer
on any bolts that thread into a water jacket. Of course I never know which
ones those are :-)
A torque wrench would be a good idea. I can't recall for an iron intake but
for aluminum you're supposed to re-torque a second time after the engine has
been heated up & cooled back down.
Hope I haven't forgotten anything...
Mark
>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:49 PM
>To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
>Subject: [CM] Old Topic?
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>OK, I have an intake, and a carb to put on my 64.5 289
>(Coupe/4V/TopLoader). Besides intake manifold gaskets, what else do I
>need to do this in a day?
>
>Will I need to take off the heads?
>Do I need new rocker arm gaskets?
>I know I need silicon to seal the front and rear of the intake, but what
>kind?
>And... should I put silicon on both mating surfaces, or just one.
>
>Honestly, I am sure the steps for this job were posted before, but I
>don't know how to "search" for them.
>
>If you just want to point me toward a hyperlink for these answers, I'd
>be happy. But, on the other hand, this board has been AWFULLY quiet
>lately!!
>
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Mail From: walt.boeninger (Walt Boeninger)
mark thispot wrote:
> In addition to a top quality intake gasket set I'd get a new thermostat
> & gasket and new bolts. You're supposed to put a dab of Loctite thread
> sealer on any bolts that thread into a water jacket. Of course I never
> know which ones those are :-)
For this job, none of the bolts touch water.....
Walt
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Mail From: walt.boeninger (Walt Boeninger)
mark thispot wrote:
> In addition to a top quality intake gasket set I'd get a new thermostat
> & gasket and new bolts. You're supposed to put a dab of Loctite thread
> sealer on any bolts that thread into a water jacket. Of course I never
> know which ones those are :-)
For this job, none of the bolts touch water.....

Walt
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