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Mail From: ffacker (Fred Facker)
Hey guys, I just picked up a monte carlo bar and an
export brace for my '66 coupe this week, and I was
wondering if anyone had tips on the best way to
install them. Of course, the whole project looks easy
enough, just remove the old bolts and put in the new
ones, right? However, it's looking like I'm going to
have to do some serious finagling and hold my mouth
just right to get these things to fit properly and to
have all the holes line up.
The guys at Classic Mustang of Houston said that
sometimes it helps to put jackstands under the engine
mount to let the shock towers relax.
Any experts have any tips? All help is appreciated.
-Fred
Mail From: ffacker (Fred Facker)
Hey guys, I just picked up a monte carlo bar and an
export brace for my '66 coupe this week, and I was
wondering if anyone had tips on the best way to
install them. Of course, the whole project looks easy
enough, just remove the old bolts and put in the new
ones, right? However, it's looking like I'm going to
have to do some serious finagling and hold my mouth
just right to get these things to fit properly and to
have all the holes line up.
The guys at Classic Mustang of Houston said that
sometimes it helps to put jackstands under the engine
mount to let the shock towers relax.
Any experts have any tips? All help is appreciated.
-Fred
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Mail From: rick (Rick Larson)
Fred,
> install them. Of course, the whole project looks easy
> enough, just remove the old bolts and put in the new
> ones, right? However, it's looking like I'm going to
> have to do some serious finagling and hold my mouth
> just right to get these things to fit properly and to
> have all the holes line up.
Export brace:
When I installed this, I had to install some jack stands behind
the firewall frame rails to get it to fit. Plus I needed someone
to sit on the radiator support too. Don't forget the Export Brace
mounting stiffener. I think I needed to drill one hole on
each side.
Monte Carlo bar:
I had no trouble in mouting this but there has been *many* posts on
various tools/problems on trying to get this installed. And I'm not
talking about some interference problem with a wide cap distributor.
It seems like a lot of Mustangs have sagged shock towers and the
distance between the inner fender is less than the bar you have.
You might need to get the front end aligned after you get these
two installed.
rick
66 coupe (with one piece export brace and straight Monte Carlo bar)
Mail From: rick (Rick Larson)
Fred,
> install them. Of course, the whole project looks easy
> enough, just remove the old bolts and put in the new
> ones, right? However, it's looking like I'm going to
> have to do some serious finagling and hold my mouth
> just right to get these things to fit properly and to
> have all the holes line up.
Export brace:
When I installed this, I had to install some jack stands behind
the firewall frame rails to get it to fit. Plus I needed someone
to sit on the radiator support too. Don't forget the Export Brace
mounting stiffener. I think I needed to drill one hole on
each side.
Monte Carlo bar:
I had no trouble in mouting this but there has been *many* posts on
various tools/problems on trying to get this installed. And I'm not
talking about some interference problem with a wide cap distributor.
It seems like a lot of Mustangs have sagged shock towers and the
distance between the inner fender is less than the bar you have.
You might need to get the front end aligned after you get these
two installed.
rick
66 coupe (with one piece export brace and straight Monte Carlo bar)
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Mail From: siwik (Randy Siwik)
Rick Larson wrote:
Monte Carlo bar: [snip]
>I had no trouble in mouting this but there has been *many* posts on
>various tools/problems on trying to get this installed. And I'm not
>talking about some interference problem with a wide cap distributor.
>
I'm one of those guys. I tried the jack stands under the frame rails,
big-ol-boys pushing down on the bumper and core support, floor jack under
cross member, waited for a full moon (gravitational pull), a BFH,
nothing made the
space increase. I desperation a porta-power was used. Arg!
Porta-Power: Noun, - hydraulic tool used to dent the inside of once
perfectly
straight inner fenders while big-ol-boys try to shove the monte carlo
bar in place.
Interesting points;
This car has zero rust and no body panel replacement. The bar I have was
measured against many others on the list, it checks out perfect.
If my inner fenders have sagged that much, how come my hood fits great
between
the fenders? Shrug...
However, my bar does fit great on the wall in my garage next to my vinyl
'Welcome Race Fans' banner.
Good Luck w/ your bar.
Randy-
Central Ohio
Mail From: siwik (Randy Siwik)
Rick Larson wrote:
Monte Carlo bar: [snip]
>I had no trouble in mouting this but there has been *many* posts on
>various tools/problems on trying to get this installed. And I'm not
>talking about some interference problem with a wide cap distributor.
>
I'm one of those guys. I tried the jack stands under the frame rails,
big-ol-boys pushing down on the bumper and core support, floor jack under
cross member, waited for a full moon (gravitational pull), a BFH,
nothing made the
space increase. I desperation a porta-power was used. Arg!
Porta-Power: Noun, - hydraulic tool used to dent the inside of once
perfectly
straight inner fenders while big-ol-boys try to shove the monte carlo
bar in place.
Interesting points;
This car has zero rust and no body panel replacement. The bar I have was
measured against many others on the list, it checks out perfect.
If my inner fenders have sagged that much, how come my hood fits great
between
the fenders? Shrug...
However, my bar does fit great on the wall in my garage next to my vinyl
'Welcome Race Fans' banner.
Good Luck w/ your bar.
Randy-
Central Ohio
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Mail From: richsilv (Rich Silva)
I've heard of trouble installing the Export Brace, but not much about
installing the Monte Carlo bar...
The way I finally got my export brace down was by purchasing two Grade 8
6-inch long bolts... Installed my Monte Carlo bar. I then mounted the fronts
up... Put jack stands under the frame to get as much "sag" as I could...
Then managed to get a nut on the long bolts and started tightening them down
slowly and evenly... Eventually I was able to get the bolts tight... And
install two of the stock bolts to hold things together... I then removed the
long bolts, one at a time.
Rich
> -----Original Message-----
> From: (email redacted) [mailto:classic-
> (email redacted)] On Behalf Of Randy Siwik
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:30 AM
> To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
> Subject: Re: [CM] Re: Monte Carlo bar and export brace installation
>
>
> Rick Larson wrote:
>
> Monte Carlo bar: [snip]
>
> >I had no trouble in mouting this but there has been *many* posts on
> >various tools/problems on trying to get this installed. And I'm not
> >talking about some interference problem with a wide cap distributor.
> >
>
> I'm one of those guys. I tried the jack stands under the frame rails,
> big-ol-boys pushing down on the bumper and core support, floor jack under
> cross member, waited for a full moon (gravitational pull), a BFH,
> nothing made the
> space increase. I desperation a porta-power was used. Arg!
> Porta-Power: Noun, - hydraulic tool used to dent the inside of once
> perfectly
> straight inner fenders while big-ol-boys try to shove the monte carlo
> bar in place.
>
> Interesting points;
> This car has zero rust and no body panel replacement. The bar I have was
> measured against many others on the list, it checks out perfect.
> If my inner fenders have sagged that much, how come my hood fits great
> between
> the fenders? Shrug...
>
> However, my bar does fit great on the wall in my garage next to my vinyl
> 'Welcome Race Fans' banner.
>
> Good Luck w/ your bar.
> Randy-
> Central Ohio
>
>
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Mail From: richsilv (Rich Silva)
I've heard of trouble installing the Export Brace, but not much about
installing the Monte Carlo bar...
The way I finally got my export brace down was by purchasing two Grade 8
6-inch long bolts... Installed my Monte Carlo bar. I then mounted the fronts
up... Put jack stands under the frame to get as much "sag" as I could...
Then managed to get a nut on the long bolts and started tightening them down
slowly and evenly... Eventually I was able to get the bolts tight... And
install two of the stock bolts to hold things together... I then removed the
long bolts, one at a time.
Rich
> -----Original Message-----
> From: (email redacted) [mailto:classic-
> (email redacted)] On Behalf Of Randy Siwik
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:30 AM
> To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
> Subject: Re: [CM] Re: Monte Carlo bar and export brace installation
>
>
> Rick Larson wrote:
>
> Monte Carlo bar: [snip]
>
> >I had no trouble in mouting this but there has been *many* posts on
> >various tools/problems on trying to get this installed. And I'm not
> >talking about some interference problem with a wide cap distributor.
> >
>
> I'm one of those guys. I tried the jack stands under the frame rails,
> big-ol-boys pushing down on the bumper and core support, floor jack under
> cross member, waited for a full moon (gravitational pull), a BFH,
> nothing made the
> space increase. I desperation a porta-power was used. Arg!
> Porta-Power: Noun, - hydraulic tool used to dent the inside of once
> perfectly
> straight inner fenders while big-ol-boys try to shove the monte carlo
> bar in place.
>
> Interesting points;
> This car has zero rust and no body panel replacement. The bar I have was
> measured against many others on the list, it checks out perfect.
> If my inner fenders have sagged that much, how come my hood fits great
> between
> the fenders? Shrug...
>
> However, my bar does fit great on the wall in my garage next to my vinyl
> 'Welcome Race Fans' banner.
>
> Good Luck w/ your bar.
> Randy-
> Central Ohio
>
>
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Mail From: Linc (Linc)
Now that was funny.... unfortunate, but funny.
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Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:30 PM
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
Subject: Re: [CM] Re: Monte Carlo bar and export brace installation
Rick Larson wrote:
Monte Carlo bar: [snip]
>I had no trouble in mouting this but there has been *many* posts on
>various tools/problems on trying to get this installed. And I'm not
>talking about some interference problem with a wide cap distributor.
>
I'm one of those guys. I tried the jack stands under the frame rails,
big-ol-boys pushing down on the bumper and core support, floor jack under
cross member, waited for a full moon (gravitational pull), a BFH,
nothing made the
space increase. I desperation a porta-power was used. Arg!
Porta-Power: Noun, - hydraulic tool used to dent the inside of once
perfectly
straight inner fenders while big-ol-boys try to shove the monte carlo
bar in place.
Interesting points;
This car has zero rust and no body panel replacement. The bar I have was
measured against many others on the list, it checks out perfect.
If my inner fenders have sagged that much, how come my hood fits great
between
the fenders? Shrug...
However, my bar does fit great on the wall in my garage next to my vinyl
'Welcome Race Fans' banner.
Good Luck w/ your bar.
Randy-
Central Ohio
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Mail From: Linc (Linc)
Now that was funny.... unfortunate, but funny.
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Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:30 PM
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
Subject: Re: [CM] Re: Monte Carlo bar and export brace installation
Rick Larson wrote:
Monte Carlo bar: [snip]
>I had no trouble in mouting this but there has been *many* posts on
>various tools/problems on trying to get this installed. And I'm not
>talking about some interference problem with a wide cap distributor.
>
I'm one of those guys. I tried the jack stands under the frame rails,
big-ol-boys pushing down on the bumper and core support, floor jack under
cross member, waited for a full moon (gravitational pull), a BFH,
nothing made the
space increase. I desperation a porta-power was used. Arg!
Porta-Power: Noun, - hydraulic tool used to dent the inside of once
perfectly
straight inner fenders while big-ol-boys try to shove the monte carlo
bar in place.
Interesting points;
This car has zero rust and no body panel replacement. The bar I have was
measured against many others on the list, it checks out perfect.
If my inner fenders have sagged that much, how come my hood fits great
between
the fenders? Shrug...
However, my bar does fit great on the wall in my garage next to my vinyl
'Welcome Race Fans' banner.
Good Luck w/ your bar.
Randy-
Central Ohio
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Mail From: ckelly (Chris Kelly)
We have the same such "trophy" in the attic of the garage. It was a good
1/4" too wide. Our's had busted shock towers and other abuse, so it was
not unexpected. But still maddening.
At 01:30 PM 2/20/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Rick Larson wrote:
>
>I'm one of those guys. I tried the jack stands under the frame rails,
>big-ol-boys pushing down on the bumper and core support, floor jack under
>cross member, waited for a full moon (gravitational pull), a BFH,
>nothing made the
>space increase. I desperation a porta-power was used. Arg!
>Porta-Power: Noun, - hydraulic tool used to dent the inside of once
>perfectly
>straight inner fenders while big-ol-boys try to shove the monte carlo
>bar in place.
>
========The Kelly's==============
Chris - (email redacted)
Debbie - (email redacted)
Merkel, Texas
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Mail From: ckelly (Chris Kelly)
We have the same such "trophy" in the attic of the garage. It was a good
1/4" too wide. Our's had busted shock towers and other abuse, so it was
not unexpected. But still maddening.
At 01:30 PM 2/20/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Rick Larson wrote:
>
>I'm one of those guys. I tried the jack stands under the frame rails,
>big-ol-boys pushing down on the bumper and core support, floor jack under
>cross member, waited for a full moon (gravitational pull), a BFH,
>nothing made the
>space increase. I desperation a porta-power was used. Arg!
>Porta-Power: Noun, - hydraulic tool used to dent the inside of once
>perfectly
>straight inner fenders while big-ol-boys try to shove the monte carlo
>bar in place.
>
========The Kelly's==============
Chris - (email redacted)
Debbie - (email redacted)
Merkel, Texas
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Mail From: markrussellaz (mark russell)
I see the problem - the full moon was pulling those
good ol boys UP -
I think the proper procedure would be to fill up some
of them boys with some 32 oz steaks and all the
fixins, with no moon in the visible sky.
Then have at it as you describe.
Make room for a new 05 Stang poster on the wall too.

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of
Randy
Siwik
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:30 PM
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
Subject: Re: [CM] Re: Monte Carlo bar and export brace
installation
Rick Larson wrote:
Monte Carlo bar: [snip]
>I had no trouble in mouting this but there has been
*many* posts on
>various tools/problems on trying to get this
installed. And I'm not
>talking about some interference problem with a wide
cap distributor.
>
I'm one of those guys. I tried the jack stands under
the frame rails,
big-ol-boys pushing down on the bumper and core
support, floor jack
under
cross member, waited for a full moon (gravitational
pull), a BFH,
nothing made the
space increase. I desperation a porta-power was
used. Arg!
Porta-Power: Noun, - hydraulic tool used to dent the
inside of once
perfectly
straight inner fenders while big-ol-boys try to shove
the monte carlo
bar in place.
Interesting points;
This car has zero rust and no body panel replacement.
The bar I have
was
measured against many others on the list, it checks
out perfect.
If my inner fenders have sagged that much, how come my
hood fits great
between
the fenders? Shrug...
However, my bar does fit great on the wall in my
garage next to my
vinyl
'Welcome Race Fans' banner.
Good Luck w/ your bar.
Randy-
Central Ohio
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Mail From: markrussellaz (mark russell)
I see the problem - the full moon was pulling those
good ol boys UP -
I think the proper procedure would be to fill up some
of them boys with some 32 oz steaks and all the
fixins, with no moon in the visible sky.
Then have at it as you describe.
Make room for a new 05 Stang poster on the wall too.

-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted)
[mailto
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Randy
Siwik
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:30 PM
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
Subject: Re: [CM] Re: Monte Carlo bar and export brace
installation
Rick Larson wrote:
Monte Carlo bar: [snip]
>I had no trouble in mouting this but there has been
*many* posts on
>various tools/problems on trying to get this
installed. And I'm not
>talking about some interference problem with a wide
cap distributor.
>
I'm one of those guys. I tried the jack stands under
the frame rails,
big-ol-boys pushing down on the bumper and core
support, floor jack
under
cross member, waited for a full moon (gravitational
pull), a BFH,
nothing made the
space increase. I desperation a porta-power was
used. Arg!
Porta-Power: Noun, - hydraulic tool used to dent the
inside of once
perfectly
straight inner fenders while big-ol-boys try to shove
the monte carlo
bar in place.
Interesting points;
This car has zero rust and no body panel replacement.
The bar I have
was
measured against many others on the list, it checks
out perfect.
If my inner fenders have sagged that much, how come my
hood fits great
between
the fenders? Shrug...
However, my bar does fit great on the wall in my
garage next to my
vinyl
'Welcome Race Fans' banner.
Good Luck w/ your bar.
Randy-
Central Ohio
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