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How can I tell a Hi-po 289?
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Mail From: (email redacted) (Thomas Teixeira)
At 07:35 AM 8/1/2001, (email redacted) wrote:
>The big thing I noticed when I opened the hood is the 4V
>carb. I think this is a Hi-po 289. 1st question, how do I tell if it
>really is? Second question, what is it worth if it is a Hi-po?
Offhand, check the VIN (on the driver side inner fender or the door) to see
if the second character is K. An A would indicate 4V, but not the HiPo; A C
would indicate 2V 289. Of course this just tells you what was originally in
the car.
Also, the HiPo engines had carburetors with manual chokes, while the A
engines used automatic chokes. But this obviously doesn't tell you about
the engine itself.
Without checking, I don't know if the head castings are the same for the K
and A code engines. I know some of the differences were done by cams and
maybe pistons to raise the compression ratio, but I vaguely remember that
the mechanical lifters in the K code engines use different rocker arm
mechanisms and maybe different head castings.
Not sure what it would be worth: try looking through Hemmings Motor News or
similar places to see what people are asking.
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Mail From: (email redacted) (Thomas Teixeira)
At 07:35 AM 8/1/2001, (email redacted) wrote:
>The big thing I noticed when I opened the hood is the 4V
>carb. I think this is a Hi-po 289. 1st question, how do I tell if it
>really is? Second question, what is it worth if it is a Hi-po?
Offhand, check the VIN (on the driver side inner fender or the door) to see
if the second character is K. An A would indicate 4V, but not the HiPo; A C
would indicate 2V 289. Of course this just tells you what was originally in
the car.
Also, the HiPo engines had carburetors with manual chokes, while the A
engines used automatic chokes. But this obviously doesn't tell you about
the engine itself.
Without checking, I don't know if the head castings are the same for the K
and A code engines. I know some of the differences were done by cams and
maybe pistons to raise the compression ratio, but I vaguely remember that
the mechanical lifters in the K code engines use different rocker arm
mechanisms and maybe different head castings.
Not sure what it would be worth: try looking through Hemmings Motor News or
similar places to see what people are asking.
'66 convertible (200 auto) mailto
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Mail From: (email redacted) (Walt Boeninger)
[from Thomas Teixeira]
>
>Offhand, check the VIN (on the driver side inner fender or the door) to see
>if the second character is K. An A would indicate 4V, but not the HiPo; A C
>would indicate 2V 289. Of course this just tells you what was originally in
>the car.
That would be Fifth character, second is Assembly plant.
Regardless of the VIN, the motor couls be a Hypo, and if it came
out of a K code car will have the VIN stamped in the block above
the oil pan rail, passenger side, I believe.
Look for a much thicker dampner, and the alternator bracket is
also thicker. (Hard to tell w/o comparing sid by side)
>Not sure what it would be worth: try looking through Hemmings Motor News or
>similar places to see what people are asking.
If it is an actual 67 K code car, then it's very rare, only 450
or so were made, they made more GT350s in 1967 than HiPo Mustangs...
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Walt Boeninger - Nor Cal SAAC 67 GT500 | 67 Shelby T-A #31
norcal-saac.org 71 Boss 351 | 97 5.0 Explorer
mailtoemail redacted) 99 C5 Hdtp | 86 Mustang GT
Mail From: (email redacted) (Walt Boeninger)
[from Thomas Teixeira]
>
>Offhand, check the VIN (on the driver side inner fender or the door) to see
>if the second character is K. An A would indicate 4V, but not the HiPo; A C
>would indicate 2V 289. Of course this just tells you what was originally in
>the car.
That would be Fifth character, second is Assembly plant.
Regardless of the VIN, the motor couls be a Hypo, and if it came
out of a K code car will have the VIN stamped in the block above
the oil pan rail, passenger side, I believe.
Look for a much thicker dampner, and the alternator bracket is
also thicker. (Hard to tell w/o comparing sid by side)
>Not sure what it would be worth: try looking through Hemmings Motor News or
>similar places to see what people are asking.
If it is an actual 67 K code car, then it's very rare, only 450
or so were made, they made more GT350s in 1967 than HiPo Mustangs...
-------
Regards
Walt Boeninger - Nor Cal SAAC 67 GT500 | 67 Shelby T-A #31
norcal-saac.org 71 Boss 351 | 97 5.0 Explorer
mailto
email redacted) 99 C5 Hdtp | 86 Mustang GT|
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Mail From: (email redacted) (John Dettori)
Erik,
If it is a HiPo, you would find:
- 5th char of Vin would be a K
- Mechanical (Solid) lifters - have to lift valve covers.
Also you can hear the difference.
- Harmonic Balancer (Crank dampner) is 1-7/8" wide;
bigger than A or C code 289
- Alternator Pulley is 4" diameter; bigger than A or C code
- Exhaust manifolds look like shorty headers. In fact, they're
called "HiPo Exhaust manifolds".
- All 67 Mustangs with HiPo (472 made) are GTs, with all GT options
stripes, disc brakes, fog lights, quad exhaust tips, etc.
You realize 1967 was the last year for the HiPo, right? The end of an
era.
- Carb would be an Autolite 4100, and would have 1.12 on the clock face cast
in
the side of the carburetor
- Dual point distributor with mechanical advance
Get Tony Gregory's book "289 High Performance Mustang" (check the title).
Good luck. If you find an original K-code motor in a 67 GT, grab it at any
price.
And welcome to the club! The 289 my 67 GT350 is a work of art!
====================================================================
John Dettori 01 Cobra (4.6l 6A
Manager 86 SVO (2.3l IT)
KPMG Consulting, Inc. 70 Mach I (351C-4V)
(email redacted) 67 GT350 (289-4V SC)
516 298 7072 67 GT Conv (289-4V)
----- Original Message -----
From: <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 7:35 AM
Subject: [CM] How can I tell a Hi-po 289?
> I have the opportunity to buy a 67 coupe in need of basically new quarters
> and floors and a paint job. The car has been beat on some, but appears to
> have potential. The big thing I noticed when I opened the hood is the 4V
> carb. I think this is a Hi-po 289. 1st question, how do I tell if it
> really is? Second question, what is it worth if it is a Hi-po?
>
> Thanks,
> Erik
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Mail From: (email redacted) (John Dettori)
Erik,
If it is a HiPo, you would find:
- 5th char of Vin would be a K
- Mechanical (Solid) lifters - have to lift valve covers.
Also you can hear the difference.
- Harmonic Balancer (Crank dampner) is 1-7/8" wide;
bigger than A or C code 289
- Alternator Pulley is 4" diameter; bigger than A or C code
- Exhaust manifolds look like shorty headers. In fact, they're
called "HiPo Exhaust manifolds".
- All 67 Mustangs with HiPo (472 made) are GTs, with all GT options
stripes, disc brakes, fog lights, quad exhaust tips, etc.
You realize 1967 was the last year for the HiPo, right? The end of an
era.
- Carb would be an Autolite 4100, and would have 1.12 on the clock face cast
in
the side of the carburetor
- Dual point distributor with mechanical advance
Get Tony Gregory's book "289 High Performance Mustang" (check the title).
Good luck. If you find an original K-code motor in a 67 GT, grab it at any
price.
And welcome to the club! The 289 my 67 GT350 is a work of art!
====================================================================
John Dettori 01 Cobra (4.6l 6A
Manager 86 SVO (2.3l IT)
KPMG Consulting, Inc. 70 Mach I (351C-4V)
(email redacted) 67 GT350 (289-4V SC)
516 298 7072 67 GT Conv (289-4V)
----- Original Message -----
From: <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 7:35 AM
Subject: [CM] How can I tell a Hi-po 289?
> I have the opportunity to buy a 67 coupe in need of basically new quarters
> and floors and a paint job. The car has been beat on some, but appears to
> have potential. The big thing I noticed when I opened the hood is the 4V
> carb. I think this is a Hi-po 289. 1st question, how do I tell if it
> really is? Second question, what is it worth if it is a Hi-po?
>
> Thanks,
> Erik
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