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Mail From: stan48312 (stan)

Does anyone know the history of the Mustang Running Horse ? Does Ford own the patent for the design ? The same design with only a few variations is used on a lot of products. I have an old picture of one and wondered if Ford owns the design.

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Does anyone know the history of the Mustang Running Horse ? Does Ford own the patent for the design ? The same design with only a few variations is used on a lot of products. I have an old picture of one and wondered if Ford owns the design.

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Mail From: keven (Coates, Keven)

I don't know the history, but I do know that Ford has a team of hungry
lawyers ready to pounce on anyone who uses anything with any kind of
likeness to any of its symbols. The running horse and mustang name are
trademarked of course, and woe to him who tries to use it without giving
Ford their due. They're weird that way, much more than most companies.



Keven

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[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of stan
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:48 PM
To: Coates, Keven
Subject: [CM] History of the Mustang Running Horse (?)



Does anyone know the history of the Mustang Running Horse ? Does Ford
own the patent for the design ? The same design with only a few
variations is used on a lot of products. I have an old picture of one
and wondered if Ford owns the design.



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Mail From: KalliPa1 (KalliPa1

One of the Mustang magazine ran an article on the history of the horse.
I think it was Mustangs and Fords or Mustangs Monthly. The fellow who drew
the horse was left handed. That is why it is running in the direction it
is. He drew the horse for Ford before the car was on the market of course.
Ford was trying to decide to call the car a Mustang or a Cougar. Of course,
we all know that the Mustang was their choice. Maybe someone else can shed a
little light on this topic with some more history and facts.
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Mail From: walt (Walt Boeninger)

Somewhere in there they also were going to call it Torino.
There is a DVD I saw recently with an early version a "Torino"
ad campaign, the DVD was made in England.

KalliPa1 at aol.com wrote:

> One of the Mustang magazine ran an article on the history of the
> horse. I think it was Mustangs and Fords or Mustangs Monthly. The
> fellow who drew the horse was left handed. That is why it is running in
> the direction it is. He drew the horse for Ford before the car was on
> the market of course. Ford was trying to decide to call the car a
> Mustang or a Cougar. Of course, we all know that the Mustang was their
> choice. Maybe someone else can shed a little light on this topic with
> some more history and facts.

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Mail From: dano (Dan O'Reilly)

Read Iacocca's book. Torino was one name that was considered, along with
Cougar and Bronco (I think there were another one or two that GM ultimately
used). Torino was apparently thrown out for Ford internal political
reasons (something to do with Henry Ford). Cougar was the favorite of the
Mustang designers. Mustang was suggested, if I remember correctly, by an
ad agency.

At 11:23 AM 9/27/2006, Walt Boeninger wrote:
>Somewhere in there they also were going to call it Torino.
>There is a DVD I saw recently with an early version a "Torino"
>ad campaign, the DVD was made in England.
>
>KalliPa1 at aol.com wrote:
>
> > One of the Mustang magazine ran an article on the history of the
> > horse. I think it was Mustangs and Fords or Mustangs Monthly. The
> > fellow who drew the horse was left handed. That is why it is running in
> > the direction it is. He drew the horse for Ford before the car was on
> > the market of course. Ford was trying to decide to call the car a
> > Mustang or a Cougar. Of course, we all know that the Mustang was their
> > choice. Maybe someone else can shed a little light on this topic with
> > some more history and facts.

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Dan O'Reilly
1966 Nightmist Blue Pony Coupe
1971 Bright Red Mach 1
2002 Black Deluxe Convertible
Colorado Springs, CO

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Dan O'Reilly wrote:

> Read Iacocca's book. Torino was one name that was considered, along with
> Cougar and Bronco (I think there were another one or two that GM ultimately
> used). Torino was apparently thrown out for Ford internal political
> reasons (something to do with Henry Ford).

Probably because Enzo refused Henry's offer to buy Ferrari...
so anything Italian was out...

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Mail From: jkessell (James Kessell)

Someone correct me, but which came first - the Ford Mustang logo or
the Southern Methodist University logo.

footballfanatics.com/COLLEGE_SMU_Mustangs/partnerID/2466/
source/newHTML

I thought I remembered reading very long ago somewhere that Lee
Iacoca "borrowed" it under some agreement. The sure look alike and I
think SMU had it first.

Jim

On Sep 26, 2006, at 11:47 PM, stan wrote:

> Does anyone know the history of the Mustang Running Horse ? Does
> Ford own the patent for the design ? The same design with only a
> few variations is used on a lot of products. I have an old
> picture of one and wondered if Ford owns the design.
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Mail From: mkupec (Michael J. Kupec)

Pony's head on the SMU Mustang is held up high and the head on the Ford
logo is more forward and stretched out.

Artist who did the Ford pony probably copied parts of the gaitt of the SMU
pony, but thne there's plenty of other drawings of the Mustang in an all out
gallop that look like Fords logo.

Michael J. Kupec
mkupec at blueovalcorral.com
blueovalcorral.com <blueovalcorral.com/>

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[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of James
Kessell
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:47 PM
To: Michael J. Kupec
Subject: Re: [CM] History of the Mustang Running Horse (?)


Someone correct me, but which came first - the Ford Mustang logo or the
Southern Methodist University logo.

footballfanatics.com/COLLEGE_SMU_Mustangs/partnerID/2466/source/n
ewHTML

I thought I remembered reading very long ago somewhere that Lee Iacoca
"borrowed" it under some agreement. The sure look alike and I think SMU had
it first.

Jim

On Sep 26, 2006, at 11:47 PM, stan wrote:


Does anyone know the history of the Mustang Running Horse ? Does Ford own
the patent for the design ? The same design with only a few variations is
used on a lot of products. I have an old picture of one and wondered if
Ford owns the design.

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Mail From: Lance (Lance Robaldo)

Yes, SMU?s pony came first. And it absolutely IS the same logo.

The only exception is it faces a different direction than Fords.



Lance.



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[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of James
Kessell
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:47 PM
To: Lance at robaldo.com
Subject: Re: [CM] History of the Mustang Running Horse (?)



Someone correct me, but which came first - the Ford Mustang logo or the
Southern Methodist University logo.



footballfanatics.com/COLLEGE_SMU_Mustangs/partnerID/2466/source/n
ewHTML



I thought I remembered reading very long ago somewhere that Lee Iacoca
"borrowed" it under some agreement. The sure look alike and I think SMU had
it first.



Jim



On Sep 26, 2006, at 11:47 PM, stan wrote:





Does anyone know the history of the Mustang Running Horse ? Does Ford own
the patent for the design ? The same design with only a few variations is
used on a lot of products. I have an old picture of one and wondered if
Ford owns the design.



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Mail From: wal (Wal Marshall)

Here is another look at the history of the running horse logo.

nzmustang.com/history/philclark.htm
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Mail From: MBMorrow4 (MBMorrow4

They are mirror images. The SMU horse runs to the right and Ford's runs left
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Mail From: mastros (MICHAEL MASTROIANNI)

Here's something different...a Mustang hood ornament?

jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/I_159747_SW_1.gif

Not sure I've ever seen one on an car...

not even on "Pimp my Ride".

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: MBMorrow4 at aol.com
To: Mike M.
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CM] History of the Mustang Running Horse (?)


They are mirror images. The SMU horse runs to the right and Ford's runs left


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Mail From: PSAWYER (Paul Sawyer)

I've seen those-in fact, I have one on my desk in a base as a paper
weight. If memory serves, mine has a FoMoCo part number on the
bottom of it.

Would I drill holes in my hood to mount it? No way!

--P

On Sep 28, 2006, at 5:12 AM, MICHAEL MASTROIANNI wrote:

> Here's something different...a Mustang hood ornament?
>
> jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/
> I_159747_SW_1.gif
>
> Not sure I've ever seen one on an car...
>
> not even on "Pimp my Ride".
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MBMorrow4 at aol.com
> To: Mike M.
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [CM] History of the Mustang Running Horse (?)
>
> They are mirror images. The SMU horse runs to the right and Ford's
> runs left
>
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Mail From: mastros (MICHAEL MASTROIANNI)

"If memory serves, mine has a FoMoCo part number on the bottom of it."

Really? I happened to come acoss one on ebay. The description said there was an engraving on the bottom of the cast stating "patent pending...".

Like I said...I've never actually seen one on the hood of a classic Mustang (Thank Goodness!). Seems like more of a novelty item. Paperweight idea sounds like a keeper.

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Sawyer
To: Mike M.
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [CM] History of the Mustang Running Horse (?)


I've seen those-in fact, I have one on my desk in a base as a paper weight.


Would I drill holes in my hood to mount it? No way!


--P


On Sep 28, 2006, at 5:12 AM, MICHAEL MASTROIANNI wrote:


Here's something different...a Mustang hood ornament?

jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/I_159747_SW_1.gif

Not sure I've ever seen one on an car...

not even on "Pimp my Ride".

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: MBMorrow4 at aol.com
To: Mike M.
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CM] History of the Mustang Running Horse (?)


They are mirror images. The SMU horse runs to the right and Ford's runs left



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On Sep 28, 2006, at 5:10 PM, MICHAEL MASTROIANNI wrote:

>
> Like I said...I've never actually seen one on the hood of a
> classic Mustang (Thank Goodness!). Seems like more of a novelty
> item. Paperweight idea sounds like a keeper.
>


I've got the original running horse from my '65 (scraped up a little
from an accident) sitting on my desk. I've also got the gas cap on
the wall and the original running horse fender emblems on the sides
of my bulletin board. :-)

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Mail From: PSAWYER (Paul Sawyer)

M--

Let me see if I can take it apart tomorrow and see what it says. It
was on my Dad's desk for years.

I've seen them on cars. Not my cup of tea, but they do catch your
attention!

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On Sep 28, 2006, at 7:10 PM, MICHAEL MASTROIANNI wrote:

> "If memory serves, mine has a FoMoCo part number on the bottom of it."
>
> Really? I happened to come acoss one on ebay. The description said
> there was an engraving on the bottom of the cast stating "patent
> pending...".
>
> Like I said...I've never actually seen one on the hood of a
> classic Mustang (Thank Goodness!). Seems like more of a novelty
> item. Paperweight idea sounds like a keeper.
>
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Sawyer
> To: Mike M.
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [CM] History of the Mustang Running Horse (?)
>
> I've seen those-in fact, I have one on my desk in a base as a paper
> weight.
>
> Would I drill holes in my hood to mount it? No way!
>
> --P
>
> On Sep 28, 2006, at 5:12 AM, MICHAEL MASTROIANNI wrote:
>
>> Here's something different...a Mustang hood ornament?
>>
>> jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/
>> I_159747_SW_1.gif
>>
>> Not sure I've ever seen one on an car...
>>
>> not even on "Pimp my Ride".
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: MBMorrow4 at aol.com
>> To: Mike M.
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CM] History of the Mustang Running Horse (?)
>>
>> They are mirror images. The SMU horse runs to the right and Ford's
>> runs left
>>
>>
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