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Mail From: ffacker (Fred Facker)

Hey guys, I'm happy to report that I finally picked my car up from Classic Mustang of Houston this evening after it burned on Valentine's Day. They worked some magic on that engine compartment.
mustangfoto.com/mustang/underthehood.jpg

The engine is running great, but the starter is not. If the car is cold, it cranks right over. However, if the car is hot, it won't crank. My first thought is that the starter was damaged by the heat of the fire, and is about the go out. Has anybody else had experiences with the starter not working when the car's hot, and does it mean they are going bad or does mean I should put a heat shield on it or something. I'm running Tri-Y headers on my 289, but the starter was on there for more than a year without overheating before the fire.

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Mail From: benw (Ben Witso)

I've had several starters that crank well cold but don't hot. It could
very well be the starter itself.

Ben

On Mar 29, 2005, at 9:53 PM, Fred Facker wrote:

> Hey guys, I'm happy to report that I finally picked my car up from
> Classic Mustang of Houston this evening after it burned on Valentine's
> Day. They worked some magic on that engine compartment.
> mustangfoto.com/mustang/underthehood.jpg
> ?
> The engine is running great, but the starter is not. If the car is
> cold, it cranks right over. However, if the car is hot, it won't
> crank. My first thought is that the starter was damaged by the heat of
> the fire, and is about the go out. Has anybody else had experiences
> with the starter not working when the car's hot, and does it mean they
> are going bad or does mean I should put a heat shield on it or
> something. I'm running Tri-Y headers on my 289, but the starter was on
> there for more than a year without overheating before the fire.
> ?
> _______________________________________________
> Classic-mustangs mailing list
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> lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/classic-mustangs

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Mail From: ckelly (Chris Kelly)

That is the standard symptom of a Ford starter on the edge of death.
Headers cook them quick - that's why (if I run a stocker) I buy the lifetime
warranty parts for a header car. The smaller gear reduction jobs last way
longer.


=====================================
Chris Kelly - (email redacted)
raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod
Merkel, Texas
Member:
International Hot Rod Association
Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
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Facker
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:54 PM
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Subject: [CM] Happy to be back in action -- starter problems


Hey guys, I'm happy to report that I finally picked my car up from Classic
Mustang of Houston this evening after it burned on Valentine's Day. They
worked some magic on that engine compartment.
mustangfoto.com/mustang/underthehood.jpg

The engine is running great, but the starter is not. If the car is cold, it
cranks right over. However, if the car is hot, it won't crank. My first
thought is that the starter was damaged by the heat of the fire, and is
about the go out. Has anybody else had experiences with the starter not
working when the car's hot, and does it mean they are going bad or does mean
I should put a heat shield on it or something. I'm running Tri-Y headers on
my 289, but the starter was on there for more than a year without
overheating before the fire.


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Mail From: shawkins6 (Steve Hawkins)

I could be a poor ground or too much initial timing.



Steve Hawkins



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From: (email redacted)
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Facker
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:54 PM
To: Mustang List-serv
Subject: [CM] Happy to be back in action -- starter problems


Hey guys, I'm happy to report that I finally picked my car up from
Classic Mustang of Houston this evening after it burned on Valentine's
Day. They worked some magic on that engine compartment.
mustangfoto.com/mustang/underthehood.jpg

The engine is running great, but the starter is not. If the car is cold,
it cranks right over. However, if the car is hot, it won't crank. My
first thought is that the starter was damaged by the heat of the fire,
and is about the go out. Has anybody else had experiences with the
starter not working when the car's hot, and does it mean they are going
bad or does mean I should put a heat shield on it or something. I'm
running Tri-Y headers on my 289, but the starter was on there for more
than a year without overheating before the fire.


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Mail From: tthorsen70 (Terry Thorsen)

That is truly some great work in the engine compartment. Glad you were able
to save the car. Congrats!

Terry
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From: Fred Facker
To: Mustang List-serv
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:53 PM
Subject: [CM] Happy to be back in action -- starter problems


Hey guys, I'm happy to report that I finally picked my car up from Classic
Mustang of Houston this evening after it burned on Valentine's Day. They
worked some magic on that engine compartment.
mustangfoto.com/mustang/underthehood.jpg

The engine is running great, but the starter is not. If the car is cold,
it cranks right over. However, if the car is hot, it won't crank. My first
thought is that the starter was damaged by the heat of the fire, and is
about the go out. Has anybody else had experiences with the starter not
working when the car's hot, and does it mean they are going bad or does mean
I should put a heat shield on it or something. I'm running Tri-Y headers on
my 289, but the starter was on there for more than a year without
overheating before the fire.



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Mail From: tderrick (Aj Derrick)

>

Yea, it's close to death. I also run Tri-Ys and I know it's just a
matter of time before mine goes.... man it's hot down there

I'll be replacing it with one of those Autozone type lifers....


AJ Derrick
66 Coupe, 289 4V
95 GT, 5.0



> =====================================
> ?Chris Kelly - (email redacted)
> ?raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod
> ????????? Merkel, Texas
> ???????????? Member:
> ?International Hot Rod Association
> Abilene Performance Car Association
> ????? Falcon Club of America
> =====================================
> ?
>
>
> From: (email redacted)
> [mailtoemail redacted)] On Behalf Of
> Fred Facker
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:54 PM
> To: Mustang List-serv
> Subject: [CM] Happy to be back in action -- starter problems
>
> Hey guys, I'm happy to report that I finally picked my car up from
> Classic Mustang of Houston this evening after it burned on Valentine's
> Day. They worked some magic on that engine compartment.
> mustangfoto.com/mustang/underthehood.jpg
> ?
> The engine is running great, but the starter is not. If the car is
> cold, it cranks right over. However, if the car is hot, it won't
> crank. My first thought is that the starter was damaged by the heat of
> the fire, and is about the go out. Has anybody else had experiences
> with the starter not working when the car's hot, and does it mean they
> are going bad or does mean I should put a heat shield on it or
> something. I'm running Tri-Y headers on my 289, but the starter was on
> there for more than a year without overheating before the fire.
> ?
> _______________________________________________
> Classic-mustangs mailing list
> (email redacted)
> lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/classic-mustangs
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Mail From: psawyer (Dr. Paul R. Sawyer)

This is a common problem among street rod guys--engines put out so much
heat--headers adding to it--that it heat soaks the starter and causes
it to turn slowly or not at all. You might be able to get away with a
mini-starter to get some distance between headers and starter, or you
might be able to wrap the headers in heat resistant material that holds
in the heat.

I'd try a mini starter with a lifetime--lifetimes are always a good
thing to buy on common parts when you can. (Power steering pumps, for
me.)

--P

On Mar 29, 2005, at 10:07 PM, Chris Kelly wrote:

> That is the standard symptom of a Ford starter on the edge of death.?
> Headers cook them quick - that's why (if I run a stocker) I buy the
> lifetime warranty parts for a header car.? The smaller gear reduction
> jobs last way longer.
> ?
>
> =====================================
> ?Chris Kelly - (email redacted)
> ?raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod
> ????????? Merkel, Texas
> ???????????? Member:
> ?International Hot Rod Association
> Abilene Performance Car Association
> ????? Falcon Club of America
> =====================================
> ?
>
>
> From: (email redacted)
> [mailtoemail redacted)] On Behalf Of
> Fred Facker
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:54 PM
> To: Mustang List-serv
> Subject: [CM] Happy to be back in action -- starter problems
>
> Hey guys, I'm happy to report that I finally picked my car up from
> Classic Mustang of Houston this evening after it burned on Valentine's
> Day. They worked some magic on that engine compartment.
> mustangfoto.com/mustang/underthehood.jpg
> ?
> The engine is running great, but the starter is not. If the car is
> cold, it cranks right over. However, if the car is hot, it won't
> crank. My first thought is that the starter was damaged by the heat of
> the fire, and is about the go out. Has anybody else had experiences
> with the starter not working when the car's hot, and does it mean they
> are going bad or does mean I should put a heat shield on it or
> something. I'm running Tri-Y headers on my 289, but the starter was on
> there for more than a year without overheating before the fire.
> ?
> _______________________________________________
> Classic-mustangs mailing list
> (email redacted)
> lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/classic-mustangs
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