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Mail From: burntorangepony (Joe Baker)


--- Lance Robaldo <Lance at Robaldo.com> wrote:

> The front clip is the front end of the car, usually
> from the firewall forward.

This could be 90% of the answer to my situation. How
hard is it to locate one of these? I did a Yahoo
search and came up empty.

I'm very interested in testimonials from anyone who's
done this. I assume it would come without the engine;
is that right? How much did it cost to acquire? Did
you hire someone to attach it, or do it yourself? If
you hired it out, about how much did THAT cost? How
bad are alignment problems afterward? Anything I
should particularly look out for? Perhaps most
importantly: would you do it again?

Thanks

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Joe Baker
'66 Emberglow Coupe -- 289/C4
'07 Red Fire Metallic Convertible -- 4.0/AT
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Mail From: dano (Dan O'Reilly)

At 11:45 AM 7/13/2007, Joe Baker wrote:

>--- Lance Robaldo <Lance at Robaldo.com> wrote:
>
> > The front clip is the front end of the car, usually
> > from the firewall forward.
>
>This could be 90% of the answer to my situation. How
>hard is it to locate one of these? I did a Yahoo
>search and came up empty.
>
>I'm very interested in testimonials from anyone who's
>done this. I assume it would come without the engine;
>is that right? How much did it cost to acquire? Did
>you hire someone to attach it, or do it yourself? If
>you hired it out, about how much did THAT cost? How
>bad are alignment problems afterward? Anything I
>should particularly look out for? Perhaps most
>importantly: would you do it again?

What you want is the firewall forward, and don't count on getting fenders
or hood with that; certainly the engine and running gear likely won't come
with it. All of that shouldn't be too hard to find, but you'll have to
piece it together from more than 1 car. However, you'll need a good frame
machine to make sure it's put on and aligned correctly, or you're going to
have all sorts of driveability issues. In other words, it's a job for a
GOOD body shop, preferably one that specializes in Mustangs.

At this case, it may be better, unless you have a deep emotional attachment
to the car and/or get a lousy insurance settlement, to part out the
existing car and use the proceeds and the insurance settlement to do and/or
buy another one. Maybe get hold of one of the new '67 bodies & build that
up...

---

Dan O'Reilly
1966 Nightmist Blue Pony Coupe
1971 Bright Red Mach 1
2002 Black Deluxe Convertible
Colorado Springs, CO





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Mail From: mbradbrn (mbradbrn

In the late 80's, early 90's I worked for a Mustang restoration shop in Houston and saw many a car have this done. Your best bet is to find a donar car and cut off the clip and have it welded to your car. It has to be done on a frame machine to make sure it is straight and things like your serial number need to be moved from your car's clip to the new one. Once done, if done right, there will be no ill effects of the car's handling or safety. This could be costly.



----- Original Message ----
From: Joe Baker <burntorangepony at yahoo.com>
To: Michael Bradburn <mbradbrn at swbell.net>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 12:45:29 PM
Subject: [CM] Front Clips (was 'A really, really bad day')


--- Lance Robaldo <Lance at Robaldo.com> wrote:

> The front clip is the front end of the car, usually
> from the firewall forward.

This could be 90% of the answer to my situation. How
hard is it to locate one of these? I did a Yahoo
search and came up empty.

I'm very interested in testimonials from anyone who's
done this. I assume it would come without the engine;
is that right? How much did it cost to acquire? Did
you hire someone to attach it, or do it yourself? If
you hired it out, about how much did THAT cost? How
bad are alignment problems afterward? Anything I
should particularly look out for? Perhaps most
importantly: would you do it again?

Thanks

--------------------------
Joe Baker
'66 Emberglow Coupe -- 289/C4
'07 Red Fire Metallic Convertible -- 4.0/AT
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Mail From: walt (Walt Boeninger)



mbradbrn at swbell.net wrote:

> like your serial number need to be moved from your car's clip to the new
> one.

.... and some jurisdictions might classify this as "tampering" with the
VIN, which can be a federal offense.... the transfer needs to be done
with full knowledge and adherence to the DMV rules in the state where
done. (Reference: 1997 Shelby American World Registry)


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Dan O'Reilly wrote:


>
> At this case, it may be better, unless you have a deep emotional attachment
> to the car and/or get a lousy insurance settlement, to part out the
> existing car and use the proceeds and the insurance settlement to do and/or
> buy another one. Maybe get hold of one of the new '67 bodies & build that
> up...

Not a bad idea .... expensive, but not bad ... those 67 shells cost
over $16K ... without fenders or hood or any other hardware..... and
you would not be able to use a 65/66 VIN on it..... it would likely
be titled as a kit car ....

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Mail From: ckelly (Chris Kelly)

I think they have some suggestions on that on their web site (Dynacorn)
about kit cars.

dynacornclassicbodies.com/stateseal.html

I'm not a body expert, but from the photos, the roof damage and the dash
appearance - and knowing what I know about those cars - I think it's
totaled. Meaning, damaged to the point where it would be more expensive to
cut off the bad stuff, tug it back into shape and replace parts that it
would be to buy another. Maybe. Looks like the floor pans and the rockers
are hurt bad and that's the main structure of the car. Since the roof
buckeled, it's tisted bad. And they are not put together very tough in the
first place, sad to say.

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Chris Kelly - ckelly at raceabilene.net
raceabilene.net/kelly/hotrod
Merkel, Texas
Member:
International Hot Rod Association
Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On
> Behalf Of Walt Boeninger
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 1:25 PM
> To: Chris Kelly
> Subject: Re: [CM] Front Clips (was 'A really, really bad day')
>
>
>
> Dan O'Reilly wrote:
>
>
> >
> > At this case, it may be better, unless you have a deep emotional
> > attachment to the car and/or get a lousy insurance
> settlement, to part
> > out the existing car and use the proceeds and the insurance
> settlement
> > to do and/or buy another one. Maybe get hold of one of the new '67
> > bodies & build that up...
>
> Not a bad idea .... expensive, but not bad ... those 67
> shells cost over $16K ... without fenders or hood or any
> other hardware..... and you would not be able to use a 65/66
> VIN on it..... it would likely be titled as a kit car ....
>
> --
>
> Regards
> --------------
> Walt Boeninger
> mailto:webmaster at norcal-saac.org
> norcal-saac.org
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