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Mail From: abesfate (Abraham Miller)

OK - the dinky propane heater from last winter was a miserable bomb. Probably great for emergencies, but hardly useful for a guy 8ft away under 800lbs of frozen metal.

So I figure, before it gets too much colder I figure, why reinvent the wheel? I know there are fellow die-hards on this list who have detached garages and still work on their ponies in the winter...

What are you (those of you that actually SEE freezing temps) using to heat your detached (or formerly unheated attached) garage?

My only issue is lack of natural gas hookup in the garage... but I figure it'll be better to heat with dry air anyhow (to minimize condensation when the heat goes off...)

Ideas?

Or am I just breaking down and buying the heavy duty overalls this winter?

Thanks!

Abe "the baby has finally arrived, my major kitchen remodel is almost done and my wife is grateful enough to grant me time to work on the pony" Miller

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Mail From: dano (Dan O'Reilly)

I went to Lowes and bought a 65000 BTU propane-fired heater for about
$135. With a BBQ-sized bottle, it's supposed to be good for the better
part of 20 hours or so, going full blast. I have a 3-car garage with high
(12') ceilings and only 1 insulated wall (I don't think the ceiling is
insulated, either). If I turn the sucker on full blast for about 20
minutes or so, I generally have to turn it way down or even off for a while
to avoid getting too hot. The concession to safety is that I crack one of
the garage doors 2" or so to provide sufficient fresh air, which is as
recommended by the manufacturer. I still work in a sweatshirt and sweat
pants, but don't need a coat or anything.

At 07:58 AM 10/31/2006, Abraham Miller wrote:
>OK - the dinky propane heater from last winter was a miserable
>bomb. Probably great for emergencies, but hardly useful for a guy 8ft
>away under 800lbs of frozen metal.
>
>So I figure, before it gets too much colder I figure, why reinvent the
>wheel? I know there are fellow die-hards on this list who have detached
>garages and still work on their ponies in the winter...
>
>What are you (those of you that actually SEE freezing temps) using to heat
>your detached (or formerly unheated attached) garage?
>
>My only issue is lack of natural gas hookup in the garage... but I figure
>it'll be better to heat with dry air anyhow (to minimize condensation when
>the heat goes off...)
>
>Ideas?
>
>Or am I just breaking down and buying the heavy duty overalls this winter?

---

Dan O'Reilly
1966 Nightmist Blue Pony Coupe
1971 Bright Red Mach 1
2002 Black Deluxe Convertible
Colorado Springs, CO

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Mail From: kevin (Kevin Dudak)

I have a Hot Dog garage furnace. It runs on Natural gas, but after trying
the portable heater route, it was the only way to go. With an attached
garage, you can get away with a portable heater most of the time, but my
detached would eventually reach the same temp as outside. The potable could
bairly make a dent in it. I was lucky, as the previous owner had put a gas
hookup in the garage, they just took the heater with them.



Kevin

'67 Coupe

Longmont, CO







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From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of Abraham
Miller
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:59 AM
To: kevin at dudak.com
Subject: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters



OK - the dinky propane heater from last winter was a miserable bomb.
Probably great for emergencies, but hardly useful for a guy 8ft away under
800lbs of frozen metal.



So I figure, before it gets too much colder I figure, why reinvent the
wheel? I know there are fellow die-hards on this list who have detached
garages and still work on their ponies in the winter...



What are you (those of you that actually SEE freezing temps) using to heat
your detached (or formerly unheated attached) garage?



My only issue is lack of natural gas hookup in the garage... but I figure
it'll be better to heat with dry air anyhow (to minimize condensation when
the heat goes off...)



Ideas?



Or am I just breaking down and buying the heavy duty overalls this winter?




Thanks!



Abe "the baby has finally arrived, my major kitchen remodel is almost done
and my wife is grateful enough to grant me time to work on the pony" Miller





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Mail From: mustang (Brandon Peskin)


On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Chris Kelly wrote:

> I'll post a link to a picture when I get time tonight. Basically,
> I use a floor fan from Walmart, a 7 1/2 gallon propane tank and a 2
> burner Mr. Heater on top. Very effective, and not a lot of bucks
> in the whole thing. Lasts a long time - like days. It helps that
> the garage is insulated. I use this in a 20 x 24 shop.


How cold does it get in Texas?

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Mail From: psawyer (Paul Sawyer)

Don't know about Texas, but it is 82 today in SE Louisiana. I'm
getting an AC unit for the garage!

--Paul

>
>
> How cold does it get in Texas?
> _______________________________________________

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Mail From: christian.soderlund (=?us-ascii?Q?Christian_Soderlund?=)

hmm... 82F is about 27C. At times I wonder why I still live here in Finland,
here it is 23F(-5C) and about 30 cm of snow.

My suggestion would be to put in good insulation and a electric radiator, or
even better elecric floor heating.

This would keep the garage at constant temperature hens no problem with
condensation.
Don't know the price of gas/electric in the US, but I think in the long run
electric should be cheaper.
If you keep a constant temperature you don't need a big radiator, for a
small garage 600-800W should be more than enough.

Plus no waiting for the garage to heat up or no running out of gas.

Christian Soderlund
Kivimaentie 100
FIN-21870 RIIHIKOSKI

Phone +358 50 4921 593
Fax +358 2 4868 631





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From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca]On Behalf Of Paul
Sawyer
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:57 PM
To: HCS
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters


Don't know about Texas, but it is 82 today in SE Louisiana. I'm
getting an AC unit for the garage!

--Paul

>
>
> How cold does it get in Texas?
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Mail From: PSAWYER (Paul Sawyer)

Christian--

You are much, much tougher than I am! Man, that's cold.

--Paul

On Oct 31, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Christian Soderlund wrote:

> hmm... 82F is about 27C. At times I wonder why I still live here in
> Finland,
> here it is 23F(-5C) and about 30 cm of snow.
>

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Mail From: jmanley (Jay Manley)

Guys,

While it's 30F here today, I'm often out in my garage in the winter when air
temps are in the -15F to -20F range and wind chills in the -40F to -60F
range.

I would recommend, though, to first insulate your garage before worrying
about anything else. That way, however you generate heat it'll work for
you, not against you.

Finally, IMHO, I'd run a gas line to the garage and hook it up that way.
Much more reliable and cost-effective.

Jay
Fargo, ND

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Sawyer" <PSAWYER at i-55.com>
To: <JMANLEY at cableone.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 01:56 PM
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters


> Christian--
>
> You are much, much tougher than I am! Man, that's cold.
>
> --Paul
>
> On Oct 31, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Christian Soderlund wrote:
>
>> hmm... 82F is about 27C. At times I wonder why I still live here in
>> Finland,
>> here it is 23F(-5C) and about 30 cm of snow.
>>
>
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Mail From: christian.soderlund (=?us-ascii?Q?Christian_Soderlund?=)

No, not that tough, just to frozen to move

Anyway 23F is nothing, when the winter really kicks in we can expect temps
down to -30F.
And thats down here in "sunny" south Finland.

Christian Soderlund
Kivimaentie 100
FIN-21870 RIIHIKOSKI

Phone +358 50 4921 593
Fax +358 2 4868 631





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From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca]On Behalf Of Paul
Sawyer
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:56 PM
To: HCS
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters


Christian--

You are much, much tougher than I am! Man, that's cold.

--Paul

On Oct 31, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Christian Soderlund wrote:

> hmm... 82F is about 27C. At times I wonder why I still live here in
> Finland,
> here it is 23F(-5C) and about 30 cm of snow.
>

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Mail From: mustang (Brandon Peskin)


On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Paul Sawyer wrote:

> Man, that's cold.


Walt, how cold does your garage get? ;-)

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Mail From: rickl (rickl

I have AC in my garage and now I need heat.

rick (66 coupe, minnepolis, mn)

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Sawyer <psawyer at i-55.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:57 pm
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters
To: rickl at mn.rr.com

> Don't know about Texas, but it is 82 today in SE Louisiana. I'm
> getting an AC unit for the garage!
>
> --Paul
>

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Mail From: ckelly (Chris Kelly)

You'd have to clarify what part of Texas. It can be -10F in Dalhart and 95F
in Houston on the same day. (those cities are about 680 miles apart LOL)
Here we usually don't get to zero, but we get plenty of days in the 10s and
20s.

=====================================
Chris Kelly - ckelly at raceabilene.com
raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod
Merkel, Texas
Member:
International Hot Rod Association
Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
=====================================


> -----Original Message-----
> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On
> Behalf Of Brandon Peskin
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:16 PM
> To: Chris Kelly
> Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Chris Kelly wrote:
>
> > I'll post a link to a picture when I get time tonight.
> Basically, I
> > use a floor fan from Walmart, a 7 1/2 gallon propane tank and a 2
> > burner Mr. Heater on top. Very effective, and not a lot of
> bucks in
> > the whole thing. Lasts a long time - like days. It helps that the
> > garage is insulated. I use this in a 20 x 24 shop.
>
>
> How cold does it get in Texas?
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Mail From: jdettori (John Dettori)

Funny you should mention this.

I just painted the floors (Rustolem Epoxy Garage floor kit) and did alot "shop building" in my 30x30 attached (oversized) 2-car garage. I am facing a similar problem here in NY (Long Island). 3 of the 4 walls are not insulated (which I figure is the next thing I should address), and the ceilings are 20-feet at the open peak, giving me lots of overhead storage and space to re-route the garage door track for a lift, but also lots more space to heat.

I can't decide between 1) adding insulation, sheet rock / peg board and extending my baseboard heating in a new zone 2) picking up a space heater like the one mentioned in a separate post 3) buying a waste oil heater that one of the manufactures of lifts has for sale. I'm done with the kerosene heater that I tried last year.

Any thoughts?

John Dettori 2001 SVT Cobra
Smithtown, NY 11787 1986 Mustang SVO
jdettori at optonline.net 1970 Boss 302
1967 Mustang GT Vert
----- Original Message -----
From: Abraham Miller
To: John Dettori
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters


OK - the dinky propane heater from last winter was a miserable bomb. Probably great for emergencies, but hardly useful for a guy 8ft away under 800lbs of frozen metal.

So I figure, before it gets too much colder I figure, why reinvent the wheel? I know there are fellow die-hards on this list who have detached garages and still work on their ponies in the winter...

What are you (those of you that actually SEE freezing temps) using to heat your detached (or formerly unheated attached) garage?

My only issue is lack of natural gas hookup in the garage... but I figure it'll be better to heat with dry air anyhow (to minimize condensation when the heat goes off...)

Ideas?

Or am I just breaking down and buying the heavy duty overalls this winter?

Thanks!

Abe "the baby has finally arrived, my major kitchen remodel is almost done and my wife is grateful enough to grant me time to work on the pony" Miller





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Mail From: jdettori (John Dettori)

Chris,

I'm very interested in seeing what you have put together.

Where is Merkel, TX? Up here on Long Island, I'm expecting it to get down to 15-20 degrees-F late at night around January-February.
Does it get anywhere near that cold where you are?

How many gallons are in a 20-lb propane cylinder, like the ones used for outdoor BBQs?

Also, is there any open flame? I just want to be safety conscious.

Thanks!

John Dettori 2001 SVT Cobra
Smithtown, NY 11787 1986 Mustang SVO
jdettori at optonline.net 1970 Boss 302
1967 Mustang GT Vert

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Kelly
To: John Dettori
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters


I'll post a link to a picture when I get time tonight. Basically, I use a floor fan from Walmart, a 7 1/2 gallon propane tank and a 2 burner Mr. Heater on top. Very effective, and not a lot of bucks in the whole thing. Lasts a long time - like days. It helps that the garage is insulated. I use this in a 20 x 24 shop.

I have a Hot Dog garage furnace. It runs on Natural gas, but after trying the portable heater route, it was the only way to go. With an attached garage, you can get away with a portable heater most of the time, but my detached would eventually reach the same temp as outside. The potable could bairly make a dent in it. I was lucky, as the previous owner had put a gas hookup in the garage, they just took the heater with them.



Kevin

?67 Coupe

Longmont, CO








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From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of Abraham Miller
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:59 AM
To: kevin at dudak.com
Subject: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters



OK - the dinky propane heater from last winter was a miserable bomb. Probably great for emergencies, but hardly useful for a guy 8ft away under 800lbs of frozen metal.



So I figure, before it gets too much colder I figure, why reinvent the wheel? I know there are fellow die-hards on this list who have detached garages and still work on their ponies in the winter...



What are you (those of you that actually SEE freezing temps) using to heat your detached (or formerly unheated attached) garage?



My only issue is lack of natural gas hookup in the garage... but I figure it'll be better to heat with dry air anyhow (to minimize condensation when the heat goes off...)



Ideas?



Or am I just breaking down and buying the heavy duty overalls this winter?



Thanks!



Abe "the baby has finally arrived, my major kitchen remodel is almost done and my wife is grateful enough to grant me time to work on the pony" Miller










--
=====================================
Chris Kelly - ckelly at raceabilene.com
raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod
Merkel, Texas
Member:
International Hot Rod Association
Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
=====================================



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Mail From: ckelly (Chris Kelly)

raceabilene.com/misc/house/garage1.jpg
Shop is 20 x 24

raceabilene.com/misc/house/garage
<raceabilene.com/misc/house/garage2.jpg> 2.jpg
Close up

IIRC, the cylinder hold 7 1/2 gallons. At least until the new gubbermint
required valve was put on, which the propane guy says prevents using the
full capacity of the cylinder. Yes, there is open flame so appropriate
precautions must be taken. I ususlly get the place warm, then vent with the
windo behind the burner.


It gets in the 20s a lot here. Merkel is on I-20, west of Abilene TX. Take
I-20 west from Fort Worth on the map.


=====================================
Chris Kelly - ckelly at raceabilene.com
raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod
Merkel, Texas
Member:
International Hot Rod Association
Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
=====================================





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From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of John
Dettori
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:31 AM
To: Chris Kelly
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters


Chris,

I'm very interested in seeing what you have put together.

Where is Merkel, TX? Up here on Long Island, I'm expecting it to get down
to 15-20 degrees-F late at night around January-February.
Does it get anywhere near that cold where you are?

How many gallons are in a 20-lb propane cylinder, like the ones used for
outdoor BBQs?

Also, is there any open flame? I just want to be safety conscious.

Thanks!

John Dettori
2001 SVT Cobra
Smithtown, NY 11787
1986 Mustang SVO
jdettori at optonline.net
1970 Boss 302

1967 Mustang GT Vert


----- Original Message -----
From: Chris <mailto:ckelly at raceabilene.com> Kelly
To: John Dettori <mailto:jdettori at optonline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters

I'll post a link to a picture when I get time tonight. Basically, I use a
floor fan from Walmart, a 7 1/2 gallon propane tank and a 2 burner Mr.
Heater on top. Very effective, and not a lot of bucks in the whole thing.
Lasts a long time - like days. It helps that the garage is insulated. I
use this in a 20 x 24 shop.




I have a Hot Dog garage furnace. It runs on Natural gas, but after trying
the portable heater route, it was the only way to go. With an attached
garage, you can get away with a portable heater most of the time, but my
detached would eventually reach the same temp as outside. The potable could
bairly make a dent in it. I was lucky, as the previous owner had put a gas
hookup in the garage, they just took the heater with them.



Kevin

'67 Coupe

Longmont, CO







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From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of Abraham
Miller
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:59 AM
To: kevin at dudak.com
Subject: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters



OK - the dinky propane heater from last winter was a miserable bomb.
Probably great for emergencies, but hardly useful for a guy 8ft away under
800lbs of frozen metal.



So I figure, before it gets too much colder I figure, why reinvent the
wheel? I know there are fellow die-hards on this list who have detached
garages and still work on their ponies in the winter...



What are you (those of you that actually SEE freezing temps) using to heat
your detached (or formerly unheated attached) garage?



My only issue is lack of natural gas hookup in the garage... but I figure
it'll be better to heat with dry air anyhow (to minimize condensation when
the heat goes off...)



Ideas?



Or am I just breaking down and buying the heavy duty overalls this winter?




Thanks!



Abe "the baby has finally arrived, my major kitchen remodel is almost done
and my wife is grateful enough to grant me time to work on the pony" Miller









--
=====================================
Chris Kelly - ckelly at raceabilene.com
raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod
Merkel, Texas
Member:
International Hot Rod Association
Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
=====================================



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Mail From: keven (Coates, Keven)

Beautiful shop Chris! I'm jealous, all that space! I've got almost
that much garage, but it's filled with stuff. I've got to do a serious
cleaning and more organization...



Keven

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From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
Chris Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:21 AM
To: Coates, Keven
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters



raceabilene.com/misc/house/garage1.jpg

Shop is 20 x 24



raceabilene.com/misc/house/garage2.jpg

Close up



IIRC, the cylinder hold 7 1/2 gallons. At least until the new
gubbermint required valve was put on, which the propane guy says
prevents using the full capacity of the cylinder. Yes, there is open
flame so appropriate precautions must be taken. I ususlly get the place
warm, then vent with the windo behind the burner.





It gets in the 20s a lot here. Merkel is on I-20, west of Abilene TX.
Take I-20 west from Fort Worth on the map.



=====================================
Chris Kelly - ckelly at raceabilene.com
raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod
Merkel, Texas
Member:
International Hot Rod Association
Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
=====================================






________________________________


From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of John
Dettori
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:31 AM
To: Chris Kelly
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters

Chris,



I'm very interested in seeing what you have put together.



Where is Merkel, TX? Up here on Long Island, I'm expecting it
to get down to 15-20 degrees-F late at night around January-February.

Does it get anywhere near that cold where you are?



How many gallons are in a 20-lb propane cylinder, like the ones
used for outdoor BBQs?



Also, is there any open flame? I just want to be safety
conscious.



Thanks!



John Dettori
2001 SVT Cobra

Smithtown, NY 11787
1986 Mustang SVO

jdettori at optonline.net
1970 Boss 302


1967 Mustang GT Vert



----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Kelly <mailto:ckelly at raceabilene.com>

To: John Dettori <mailto:jdettori at optonline.net>

Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:13 PM

Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage
Heaters



I'll post a link to a picture when I get time tonight.
Basically, I use a floor fan from Walmart, a 7 1/2 gallon propane tank
and a 2 burner Mr. Heater on top. Very effective, and not a lot of
bucks in the whole thing. Lasts a long time - like days. It helps that
the garage is insulated. I use this in a 20 x 24 shop.



I have a Hot Dog garage furnace. It runs on Natural gas, but after
trying the portable heater route, it was the only way to go. With an
attached garage, you can get away with a portable heater most of the
time, but my detached would eventually reach the same temp as outside.
The potable could bairly make a dent in it. I was lucky, as the
previous owner had put a gas hookup in the garage, they just took the
heater with them.



Kevin

'67 Coupe

Longmont, CO







________________________________

From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
Abraham Miller
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:59 AM
To: kevin at dudak.com
Subject: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters



OK - the dinky propane heater from last winter was a miserable bomb.
Probably great for emergencies, but hardly useful for a guy 8ft away
under 800lbs of frozen metal.



So I figure, before it gets too much colder I figure, why reinvent the
wheel? I know there are fellow die-hards on this list who have detached
garages and still work on their ponies in the winter...



What are you (those of you that actually SEE freezing temps) using to
heat your detached (or formerly unheated attached) garage?



My only issue is lack of natural gas hookup in the garage... but I
figure it'll be better to heat with dry air anyhow (to minimize
condensation when the heat goes off...)



Ideas?



Or am I just breaking down and buying the heavy duty overalls this
winter?



Thanks!



Abe "the baby has finally arrived, my major kitchen remodel is almost
done and my wife is grateful enough to grant me time to work on the
pony" Miller










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Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
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Mail From: keven (Coates, Keven)

Yeah, near the coast here (about 95 miles from the ocean where I am in
NW Houston) it will get to freezing maybe 10 nights a year max.
Sometimes it'll get down to +20 or +15, but only at night. Once in a
while we get a good freeze, but some years we only have a few nights of
freezing weather.

Last night (Halloween) we had to douse the kids with bug spray! The
mosquitoes here are so big and slow right now you can step on them!

Keven

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From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
Chris Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:21 PM
To: Coates, Keven
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters

You'd have to clarify what part of Texas. It can be -10F in Dalhart and
95F
in Houston on the same day. (those cities are about 680 miles apart
LOL)
Here we usually don't get to zero, but we get plenty of days in the 10s
and
20s.

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Member:
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Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On
> Behalf Of Brandon Peskin
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:16 PM
> To: Chris Kelly
> Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Chris Kelly wrote:
>
> > I'll post a link to a picture when I get time tonight.
> Basically, I
> > use a floor fan from Walmart, a 7 1/2 gallon propane tank and a 2
> > burner Mr. Heater on top. Very effective, and not a lot of
> bucks in
> > the whole thing. Lasts a long time - like days. It helps that the
> > garage is insulated. I use this in a 20 x 24 shop.
>
>
> How cold does it get in Texas?
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Mail From: gkrone (gkrone

We went through this problem several times as my dad was moving from
shop to shop with his Freightliners in northern Illinois, not quite as
cold as some places.

At one point we were in a non insulated lean to like building of
corrugated tin with a gravel floor. We put an old carpet on the gravel
to keep a little of the moisture off of our backs while we worked under
the trucks and had bullet kerosene heates pointed under there too.
Long underwear, heavy winter coats and insulated coveralls.

In a side room my dad put together a wood burning stove made out of
five or six truck tire rims and a couple of 55 gallon barrels attached
to catch more heat going up the flew. We also had a metal 5 gallon
bucket attached that slowly dripped used engine oil onto the wood.

It kept a corner of the shop warm but really made heat when you threw a
section of inner tube in on top of the fire. The stove would almost
turn cherry red with heat.

About ten years ago he made his final move into a new building and he
did the insulation and went with the regular gas forced air heaters.

Gary Krone
Kenosha, WI

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Mail From: ckelly (Chris Kelly)

Thanks, I REALLY like the shop. Not to mention the heat, A/C, Dish TV...and
last week I put in a DVD. The DVD is for "ambience" - something fun about
working on your racers with Funny Car Summer playing on the TV. The shop is
pretty full right now. Not counting the 10 x 12 shed that is 3/4 car stuff.
I have plans to expand, but I'm continually very thankful for what I have.
Even more fun - I got to build it.

I'll have to try a panorama shot LOL


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Merkel, Texas
Member:
International Hot Rod Association
Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
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From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of Coates,
Keven
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:02 AM
To: Chris Kelly
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters



Beautiful shop Chris! I'm jealous, all that space! I've got almost that
much garage, but it's filled with stuff. I've got to do a serious cleaning
and more organization.



Keven


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Playing with the Photo Stitch software from Canon

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Mail From: keven (Coates, Keven)

Excellent! It looks like you've done a good job of staying away from
tools that take up too much space.

My garage is afflicted with too many big projects. I like woodworking
too, so I've got lots of wood tools and some projects still in there.
I've also got an attic that's small, but lots of stuff up there too. I
feel sorry for my friends when I move! My garage has more stuff in it
than a large percentage of the rest of the house.

It's pretty cool though, now I'm getting some really good stock (mostly
aluminum and steel they throw away at work) to fabricate with, and I've
got a TIG welder so I'm going to have some fun learning how to weld with
TIG. It's an old giant TIG, so it takes up a lot of garage space too.
I'm very thankful I don't have to park in there!

Keven

-----Original Message-----
From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
Chris Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:51 PM
To: Coates, Keven
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters

Playing with the Photo Stitch software from Canon

raceabilene.com/misc/house/GaragePan_800.jpg

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Mail From: Linc ( Linc)

I moved about a year and a half ago, it took three days to move the
house and three months to move the garage and outbuilding. And I threw
away more classic Ford Parts then I car to admit.

Linc

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[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of Coates,
Keven
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:25 AM
To: Linc at quicklinc.com
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters

Excellent! It looks like you've done a good job of staying away from tools
that take up too much space.

My garage is afflicted with too many big projects. I like woodworking too,
so I've got lots of wood tools and some projects still in there.
I've also got an attic that's small, but lots of stuff up there too. I feel
sorry for my friends when I move! My garage has more stuff in it than a
large percentage of the rest of the house.

It's pretty cool though, now I'm getting some really good stock (mostly
aluminum and steel they throw away at work) to fabricate with, and I've got
a TIG welder so I'm going to have some fun learning how to weld with TIG.
It's an old giant TIG, so it takes up a lot of garage space too.
I'm very thankful I don't have to park in there!

Keven

-----Original Message-----
From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of Chris
Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:51 PM
To: Coates, Keven
Subject: Re: [CM] (For those in the North...) Garage Heaters

Playing with the Photo Stitch software from Canon

raceabilene.com/misc/house/GaragePan_800.jpg
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