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Mail From: jkessell (James Kessell)

What is the cost of a pretty much stock professional rebuild of a 289
engine in your area? And what modifications would you make to a motor
for a stock restoration - not a restomod. Definitely will install
hardened exhaust seats - but I want to keep stock look and sound -
although I might consider a mild cam. Will Keep the 2V carb.

Shipped off the drag link/control valve and power cylinder to
Precision Products this week. Since he's had my PS pump for 3 months
I don't see my car getting back on the road til next spring. I talked
to the fellow and it is a one man operation, he states he had gall
bladder surgery and it's been hotter n hell in San Antonio this
summer, so he's a bit behind. Gonna ship the AC compressor off now to
Classic Auto Air and I was just thinking............

The original 289 for my car lost compression at about 115,000 miles
and I swapped it out for a better engine about 10 years ago. It's
just sitting in a cradle in the corner of the garage. Since I've got
this car well torn down it would be nothing to swap the engine again
and why waste all the effort bolting the renewed parts on the old
engine.

Jim

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Mail From: dano (Dan O'Reilly)

Around here (Colorado Springs), we have a shop that I've used for 25 years.
All top-notch guys I would trust with anything. For my 351 Cleveland,
they've quoted me about $200 to do the heads (for the pair), $20/hole for
bore, $9/rod to install wrist pins, $100 to deck the block, $50 to boil it,
$50 to magnaflux it, $40 to remove/reinstall cam bearings, $125 to grind the
crank if it needs it. So, figure somewhere between $1500 and $2500 for
parts & labor, assuming you do the buildup yourself.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On
> Behalf Of James Kessell
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:46 PM
> To: Dan O'Reilly
> Subject: [CM] Cost of rebuilding a 289
>
> What is the cost of a pretty much stock professional rebuild
> of a 289 engine in your area? And what modifications would
> you make to a motor for a stock restoration - not a restomod.
> Definitely will install hardened exhaust seats - but I want
> to keep stock look and sound - although I might consider a
> mild cam. Will Keep the 2V carb.
>
> Shipped off the drag link/control valve and power cylinder to
> Precision Products this week. Since he's had my PS pump for
> 3 months I don't see my car getting back on the road til next
> spring. I talked to the fellow and it is a one man
> operation, he states he had gall bladder surgery and it's
> been hotter n hell in San Antonio this summer, so he's a bit
> behind. Gonna ship the AC compressor off now to Classic Auto
> Air and I was just thinking............
>
> The original 289 for my car lost compression at about 115,000
> miles and I swapped it out for a better engine about 10 years
> ago. It's just sitting in a cradle in the corner of the
> garage. Since I've got this car well torn down it would be
> nothing to swap the engine again and why waste all the effort
> bolting the renewed parts on the old engine.
>
> Jim
>
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Mail From: dano (Dan O'Reilly)

By the way: I know you said "professional rebuild". Heck, half the fun is
in tearing it down and assembling it yourself (the 289 is an easy rebuild if
you're just staying stock). The really critical stuff is getting good
precision machine work done, that's where you need a machine shop you can
trust, and in using quality parts (you can buy a good total rebuild kit from
lots of reputable places such as Jegs or Summit Racing). But if you're
willing to get your hands dirty, you can save a couple grand or so (at
$100/hour, it don't take long to add up) in labor once you have all the
parts and everything ready to go.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On
> Behalf Of Dan O'Reilly
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 9:14 PM
> To: Dan O'Reilly
> Subject: Re: [CM] Cost of rebuilding a 289
>
> Around here (Colorado Springs), we have a shop that I've used
> for 25 years.
> All top-notch guys I would trust with anything. For my 351
> Cleveland, they've quoted me about $200 to do the heads (for
> the pair), $20/hole for bore, $9/rod to install wrist pins,
> $100 to deck the block, $50 to boil it, $50 to magnaflux it,
> $40 to remove/reinstall cam bearings, $125 to grind the crank
> if it needs it. So, figure somewhere between $1500 and $2500
> for parts & labor, assuming you do the buildup yourself.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
> > [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
> > James Kessell
> > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:46 PM
> > To: Dan O'Reilly
> > Subject: [CM] Cost of rebuilding a 289
> >
> > What is the cost of a pretty much stock professional
> rebuild of a 289
> > engine in your area? And what modifications would you make
> to a motor
> > for a stock restoration - not a restomod.
> > Definitely will install hardened exhaust seats - but I want to keep
> > stock look and sound - although I might consider a mild cam. Will
> > Keep the 2V carb.
> >
> > Shipped off the drag link/control valve and power cylinder to
> > Precision Products this week. Since he's had my PS pump for
> > 3 months I don't see my car getting back on the road til
> next spring.
> > I talked to the fellow and it is a one man operation, he
> states he had
> > gall bladder surgery and it's been hotter n hell in San
> Antonio this
> > summer, so he's a bit behind. Gonna ship the AC compressor
> off now to
> > Classic Auto Air and I was just thinking............
> >
> > The original 289 for my car lost compression at about 115,000 miles
> > and I swapped it out for a better engine about 10 years ago. It's
> > just sitting in a cradle in the corner of the garage.
> Since I've got
> > this car well torn down it would be nothing to swap the
> engine again
> > and why waste all the effort bolting the renewed parts on the old
> > engine.
> >
> > Jim
> >
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> >
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> >
>
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Mail From: ckelly (raceabilene)

Anywhere between 1500 and 4000 depending. The last near stock redo
that I did - and I do all my own assembly and checking - was about
3500. I use upgraded items and forged pistons so maybe 500+ over a
good stock rebuild. If you get a pro level valve job you should not
need valve seats. If you plan to drive it hard, then change the
heads. If not - seats are not needed.

I would optimize compression if you plan to bump the cam a bit. No
need to go far because the 2 bbl will limit things to 4500 rpm or less.

On Aug 2, 2009, at 9:46 PM, James Kessell <jkessell at mac.com> wrote:

> What is the cost of a pretty much stock professional rebuild of a 289
> engine in your area? And what modifications would you make to a motor
> for a stock restoration - not a restomod. Definitely will install
> hardened exhaust seats - but I want to keep stock look and sound -
> although I might consider a mild cam. Will Keep the 2V carb.
>
> Shipped off the drag link/control valve and power cylinder to
> Precision Products this week. Since he's had my PS pump for 3 months
> I don't see my car getting back on the road til next spring. I talked
> to the fellow and it is a one man operation, he states he had gall
> bladder surgery and it's been hotter n hell in San Antonio this
> summer, so he's a bit behind. Gonna ship the AC compressor off now to
> Classic Auto Air and I was just thinking............
>
> The original 289 for my car lost compression at about 115,000 miles
> and I swapped it out for a better engine about 10 years ago. It's
> just sitting in a cradle in the corner of the garage. Since I've got
> this car well torn down it would be nothing to swap the engine again
> and why waste all the effort bolting the renewed parts on the old
> engine.
>
> Jim
>
> _______________________________________________
> Classic-mustangs mailing list
> Classic-mustangs at lists.twistedpair.ca
> lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/classic-mustangs
>
> Visit the Classic Mustang Wiki! sauce.donair.org/~cm/

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Mail From: ckelly (Chris Kelly)

Ps - the 351C in the Falcon has about $5000 in it, the 2V engine in the
Mustang has about $4000. These are race and street/strip engines
respectively.

=====================================
Chris Kelly - ckelly at raceabilene.com
raceabilene.net/kelly/hotrod
Merkel, Texas
Member:
International Hot Rod Association
Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
=====================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
[mailto:classic-mustangs-
> bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of raceabilene
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:28 PM
> To: Chris Kelly
> Subject: Re: [CM] Cost of rebuilding a 289
>
> Anywhere between 1500 and 4000 depending. The last near stock redo
> that I did - and I do all my own assembly and checking - was about
> 3500. I use upgraded items and forged pistons so maybe 500+ over a
> good stock rebuild. If you get a pro level valve job you should not
> need valve seats. If you plan to drive it hard, then change the
> heads. If not - seats are not needed.
>
> I would optimize compression if you plan to bump the cam a bit. No
> need to go far because the 2 bbl will limit things to 4500 rpm or less.
>
> On Aug 2, 2009, at 9:46 PM, James Kessell <jkessell at mac.com> wrote:
>
> > What is the cost of a pretty much stock professional rebuild of a 289
> > engine in your area? And what modifications would you make to a motor
> > for a stock restoration - not a restomod. Definitely will install
> > hardened exhaust seats - but I want to keep stock look and sound -
> > although I might consider a mild cam. Will Keep the 2V carb.
> >
> > Shipped off the drag link/control valve and power cylinder to
> > Precision Products this week. Since he's had my PS pump for 3 months
> > I don't see my car getting back on the road til next spring. I talked
> > to the fellow and it is a one man operation, he states he had gall
> > bladder surgery and it's been hotter n hell in San Antonio this
> > summer, so he's a bit behind. Gonna ship the AC compressor off now to
> > Classic Auto Air and I was just thinking............
> >
> > The original 289 for my car lost compression at about 115,000 miles
> > and I swapped it out for a better engine about 10 years ago. It's
> > just sitting in a cradle in the corner of the garage. Since I've got
> > this car well torn down it would be nothing to swap the engine again
> > and why waste all the effort bolting the renewed parts on the old
> > engine.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Classic-mustangs mailing list
> > Classic-mustangs at lists.twistedpair.ca
> > lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/classic-mustangs
> >
> > Visit the Classic Mustang Wiki! sauce.donair.org/~cm/
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Mail From: jdettori (John Dettori)

In NY (Long Island) where things are relatively expensive, my mild
performance build on the 289 in my 67 GT conv. was $3000 (last year).
The 70 Boss 302 at the machine shop now will run $5000 (custom
pistons, etc.), and the bone stock rebuild of the 351C-4V in my 70
Mach I was $2700 in 2002.

I think $3500 is a good budget number.

Best regards,

John Dettori
jdettori at optonline.net


On Aug 2, 2009, at 10:46 PM, James Kessell <jkessell at mac.com> wrote:

> What is the cost of a pretty much stock professional rebuild of a 289
> engine in your area? And what modifications would you make to a motor
> for a stock restoration - not a restomod. Definitely will install
> hardened exhaust seats - but I want to keep stock look and sound -
> although I might consider a mild cam. Will Keep the 2V carb.
>
> Shipped off the drag link/control valve and power cylinder to
> Precision Products this week. Since he's had my PS pump for 3 months
> I don't see my car getting back on the road til next spring. I talked
> to the fellow and it is a one man operation, he states he had gall
> bladder surgery and it's been hotter n hell in San Antonio this
> summer, so he's a bit behind. Gonna ship the AC compressor off now to
> Classic Auto Air and I was just thinking............
>
> The original 289 for my car lost compression at about 115,000 miles
> and I swapped it out for a better engine about 10 years ago. It's
> just sitting in a cradle in the corner of the garage. Since I've got
> this car well torn down it would be nothing to swap the engine again
> and why waste all the effort bolting the renewed parts on the old
> engine.
>
> Jim
>
> _______________________________________________
> Classic-mustangs mailing list
> Classic-mustangs at lists.twistedpair.ca
> lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/classic-mustangs
>
> Visit the Classic Mustang Wiki! sauce.donair.org/~cm/

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Mail From: KalliPa1 (KalliPa1

I bought a new long block vai Marshall Engines in Minneapolis bored
out .040'' and hardened valve seats for $1,000 three years ago.


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