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I want to put an AOD in my Mach 1. I am replacing the FMX.

Here is what I think I need:
Crossmember
Speedometer cable
Shift rod
Shortened drive shaft

Anything Else? Are there any good websites?

Thanks

Don Franck
(email redacted)
1971 Pantera #1777 / 1969 Mustang Mach 1 / 1975 Bronco
Wk 713-277-8512 / Wk Fax 713-277-8551
HM 281-856-8049 / Hm Fax 281-859-9531
geocities.com/francdj/ <geocities.com/francdj/>
geocities.com/broncopit/ <geocities.com/broncopit/>

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<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial size=2>I want to put an AOD
in my Mach 1.  I am replacing the FMX.  </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here is what I think
I need:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Crossmember</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Speedometer
cable</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shift
rod</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shortened drive
shaft</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anything Else? 
Are there any good websites?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Don Franck</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2>(email redacted)</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2>1971 Pantera #1777 /  1969 Mustang Mach 1 / 1975
Bronco</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Wk 713-277-8512 / Wk Fax 
713-277-8551</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>HM 281-856-8049 / Hm
Fax  281-859-9531</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><A
target=_blank
href="geocities.com/francdj/">geocities.com/francdj/</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><A target=_blank
href="geocities.com/broncopit/">geocities.com/broncopit/</A></FONT>
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Converting to AOD from FMX #2
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Don, The link below is a good place to start. One thing to remember on =
this transmission: TV Pressure it Critical. Repeat that three times. =
It would be a good idea to think about placing a pressure guage in the =
instrument area so that this pressure can be monitored any time that an =
idle adjustment (or anything else) is done to the carb.=20
I swapped a C4 for an AOD and had to acquire the following:

TV cable (a kickdown rod will not do the trick)
Shift rod
New rear gears. (Overdrive tended to falter with the 2:74's, went to =
3:25's and it's happy)
New speedometer gear.
Exhaust system had to be moved, the AOD is wider.
Modification to driveshaft (shortened)
Crossmember has to be moved to the rear
baumannengineering.com/aodcat.htm

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Shift rod</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New rear gears.  (Overdrive tended =
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wider.</FONT></DIV>
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rear</FONT></DIV>
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Converting to AOD from FMX #3
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More thoughts on the AOD. When mine was built, the guys put the =
planetary from a 4R70W (wide ratio), the larger A servo,and did the =
AOD-E band swap, and also had me modify the forward and direct clutches =
to accept an extra clutch pad and steel. The modification envolves =
cutting a new snap ring groove in the housing. Any competent machine =
shop can handle this for you. The end result of all of this is a tranny =
that will last longer and pull harder than original.

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servo,and did the AOD-E band swap, and also had me modify the =
forward and=20
direct clutches to accept an extra clutch pad and steel. The =
modification=20
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competent=20
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tranny=20
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Converting to AOD from FMX #4
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Mail From: (email redacted) (Rick Larson)

Don wrote:
> I want to put an AOD in my Mach 1. I am replacing the FMX.

Long time list member Dan Jones had a write up and it got
published on the Bob's vintage mustang site. I just checked
and the link isn't active. Bummer.

For our newer members, Dan spent his 1994 Christmas vacation
installing an AOD in his parent's c4 equipped 71 Mustang and wrote
up the conversion. I might be useful for your conversion.

[a quick google search...]

Here is Dan's writeup:

fordsunlimited.com/Tech/c42aod.htm

Have fun!

rick

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Don,

Just curious, why replace the FMX? It's a pretty tough transmission,
'though not a racing part. My 70 Mach I has gotten years of trouble
free use with it. I must admit, I have a bias towards restoration to
factory specs, but what do you gain by using the AOD? Does it offset
the cost of the unit, associated parts, the fabrication involved and the
labor? Wouldn't it be worth it to get your FMX fixed or "worked"?

====================================================================
John Dettori 01 Cobra (4.6l 6A cool smiley

Sr. Manager 86 SVO (2.3l IT)
BearingPoint, Inc. 70 Mach I (351C-4V)
(email redacted) 67 GT350 (289-4V SC)
516 298 7072 67 GT Conv (289-4V)

----- Original Message -----
From: Franck DJ (Don)
To: '(email redacted)'
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 11:33 AM
Subject: [CM] Converting to AOD from FMX

I want to put an AOD in my Mach 1. I am replacing the FMX.

Here is what I think I need:
Crossmember
Speedometer cable
Shift rod
Shortened drive shaft

Anything Else? Are there any good websites?

Thanks
Don Franck
(email redacted)
1971 Pantera #1777 / 1969 Mustang Mach 1 / 1975 Bronco
Wk 713-277-8512 / Wk Fax 713-277-8551
HM 281-856-8049 / Hm Fax 281-859-9531
geocities.com/francdj/
geocities.com/broncopit/

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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Don,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Just curious, why replace the FMX?  It's a
pretty tough transmission,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>'though not a racing part.  My 70 Mach I has
gotten years of trouble</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>free use with it.  I must admit, I have
a bias towards restoration to </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>factory specs, but what do you gain by using the
AOD?  Does it offset</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>the cost of the unit, associated parts, the
fabrication involved and the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>labor?  Wouldn't it be worth it to get your
FMX fixed or "worked"?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>====================================================================<BR> John
Dettori                              
01 Cobra    (4.6l 6A cool smiley

<BR> Sr.
Manager                               
86 SVO       (2.3l IT)<BR> BearingPoint,
Inc.                        
70 Mach I    (351C-4V)<BR> </FONT><A
href="mailto sad smiley

email redacted)"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>(email redacted)</FONT></A><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>                    
67 GT350   (289-4V SC)<BR> 516 298
7072                              
67 GT Conv    (289-4V)<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=(email redacted) href="mailto sad smiley

email redacted)">Franck DJ
(Don)</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=(email redacted)
href="mailto:'(email redacted)'">'(email redacted)'</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 02, 2002 11:33
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CM] Converting to AOD from
FMX</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial size=2>I want to put an
AOD in my Mach 1.  I am replacing the FMX.  </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here is what I
think I need:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Crossmember</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Speedometer
cable</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shift
rod</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shortened drive
shaft</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anything
Else?  Are there any good websites?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=694413016-02122002><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Don Franck</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><A
href="mailto sad smiley

email redacted)">(email redacted)</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>1971 Pantera #1777 /  1969 Mustang
Mach 1 / 1975 Bronco</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Wk
713-277-8512 / Wk Fax  713-277-8551</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>HM 281-856-8049 / Hm Fax  281-859-9531</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><A target=_blank
href="geocities.com/francdj/">geocities.com/francdj/</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><A target=_blank
href="geocities.com/broncopit/">geocities.com/broncopit/</A></FONT>
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Converting to AOD from FMX #6
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I would be inclined to agree have an FMX behind my 460 right now and it
holds up pretty good, no leaks...seems okay to me...Ron

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I'd have to put my vote in for the FMX too. Had one in my '69 GT in 1982
and have one now in my '69 Mach 1 currently being restored. The FMX will be
going right back in. BUT if I drove it as a long distance on the freeway
daily driver I'd think twice.

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> I would be inclined to agree have an FMX behind my 460 right now and it
> holds up pretty good, no leaks...seems okay to me...Ron
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