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Mail From: Jerry Hynes (email redacted)

Anyone have any experience with installing front shoulder belts in a
convertible. I have a 67 convertible that will be more driver than show
car and where possible safety improvements will be made. Is it possible
to put some after market shoulder harnesses into a convertible?

Thanks,
Jerry

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Mail From: HiFi (email redacted)

> Anyone have any experience with installing front shoulder belts in a
> convertible. I have a 67 convertible that will be more driver than
> show car and where possible safety improvements will be made. Is it
> possible to put some after market shoulder harnesses into a
> convertible?> ?

I'd like to know same about a coupe.

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Mail From: Adrian Rose (email redacted)

>
> > Anyone have any experience with installing front shoulder belts in a
> > convertible. I have a 67 convertible that will be more driver than
> > show car and where possible safety improvements will be made. Is it
> > possible to put some after market shoulder harnesses into a
> > convertible?> ?
>
> I'd like to know same about a coupe.
>
>
I put in inertia reels from a salvage 88 Mustang abour 10 years ago,in my
73 Convert.
Of course its a different car but I am this week getting new assemblies
from a net advertiser who specializes in belts.My car had floor threaded
holes just in front of the rear seat on l and r.I took off the side rear
quarter panels,found solid metal in front of the quarter window and botled
the shoulder support in with a 5/8 bolt and nut.I did have to do some
heavy duty sowing with boot thread to alter the belts a bit but its worked
for me for 10 years.I have decided on new ones as I will be driving it
daily again foer a while and want to be more comfortable with faster
retraction when I get out.
BTW,the rear had retractable lap belts that I converted to shoulder as
well by getting more webbing and lengthening it with boot thread and lots
of sewing!The rail behind the rear back cushion holds the shoulder
support.
Adrian Rose

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Mail From: Edward Chase (email redacted)

You got parts from a wrecked 88 Mustang 10 years ago? The car get wrecked
coming off the assembly line??? Bummer...

At 03:20 PM 8/24/97 -0300, you wrote:
>I put in inertia reels from a salvage 88 Mustang abour 10 years ago,in my
>Adrian Rose

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Mail From: Tom Jacobs (email redacted)

> Anyone have any experience with installing front shoulder belts in a
> convertible. I have a 67 convertible that will be more driver than show
> car and where possible safety improvements will be made. Is it possible
> to put some after market shoulder harnesses into a convertible?

I sent out a similar request several months ago... basically here is what
I found out...

0) Install a roll-bar and anchor to that for absolute best results. Belts
(not harnesses) from donor cars are cheaper.
1) If you're ever going to show... don't do anything.
2) If you do it... try to use original parts (say from the coupe)
3) Many shops won't do this for liability purposes... but be careful
to mount the anchor point up high enough to keep the belts from
slipping down your shoulder... also make sure that the anchor point
is into/through some of the stronger body metal and not just a single
sheet of thin metal
4) Some folks have put in the "inertial reel" style where the belt gets
hidden under the rear-seat ash-tray/armrest panels... others are simply
mounting belts at the anchor and letting them hang free.
5) You'll "feel" much safer after your belts are installed.

If you're in the SF-Bay area... Mustang Fever in Santa Clara has some
experience and has done at least two cars (mine included) that I am
aware of.... good luck.

--Tom

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Mail From: Jerry Hynes (email redacted)

Thanks for the information. I have to say I have never seen a Mustang
Convertible with a roll bar. Maybe I just haven't paid enough
attention. I certainly have one in my MGB. Do you have a source for
the roll bar?

Did you go that route? It wasn't clear from your post whether you
installed the roll bar and anchored to it or put inertia style belts
into the rear armrest panel and anchored to some other part of the car.

Thanks,
Jerry

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>From: Tom Jacobs[SMTPemail redacted)]
>Sent: Monday, August 25, 1997 10:10 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list
>Subject: [CM:5369] Re: Convertible Seat Belts
>
>> Anyone have any experience with installing front shoulder belts in a
>> convertible. I have a 67 convertible that will be more driver than show
>> car and where possible safety improvements will be made. Is it possible
>> to put some after market shoulder harnesses into a convertible?
>
>I sent out a similar request several months ago... basically here is what
>I found out...
>
>0) Install a roll-bar and anchor to that for absolute best results. Belts
> (not harnesses) from donor cars are cheaper.
>1) If you're ever going to show... don't do anything.
>2) If you do it... try to use original parts (say from the coupe)
>3) Many shops won't do this for liability purposes... but be careful
> to mount the anchor point up high enough to keep the belts from
> slipping down your shoulder... also make sure that the anchor point
> is into/through some of the stronger body metal and not just a single
> sheet of thin metal
>4) Some folks have put in the "inertial reel" style where the belt gets
> hidden under the rear-seat ash-tray/armrest panels... others are simply
> mounting belts at the anchor and letting them hang free.
>5) You'll "feel" much safer after your belts are installed.
>
>If you're in the SF-Bay area... Mustang Fever in Santa Clara has some
>experience and has done at least two cars (mine included) that I am
>aware of.... good luck.
>
>--Tom
>
>

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Mail From: Michael Melson (email redacted)

Jerry Hynes wrote:
>
> Thanks for the information. I have to say I have never seen a Mustang
> Convertible with a roll bar. Maybe I just haven't paid enough
> attention. I certainly have one in my MGB. Do you have a source for
> the roll bar?
'68 Shelby's came with roll bars. Mustangs Unlmtd and Tony Branda both
have repro's of these roll bars.
Mike

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Mail From: Tom Jacobs (email redacted)

The route I took was to get a complete belt set from a 1969 coupe (this
is a good idea since the lap/shoulder buckles are sewn and anchored
together already) out of a local parts-car yard ($5/set). I then took
it to a local shop to drill a hole through the rear side panel just above
and forward of the rear-window crank all the way through into the door
jam opening... the location was carefully chosen to both hide the bolt
in the jam and miss the door and its bumpers/latches. the resulting
look is extremely clean and all the parts match since they are
original. The bolt/nut are probably 5/8 inch hardened steel with
nylon threading to keep if from coming off or getting loose.

--Tom


> Thanks for the information. I have to say I have never seen a Mustang
> Convertible with a roll bar. Maybe I just haven't paid enough
> attention. I certainly have one in my MGB. Do you have a source for
> the roll bar?
>
> Did you go that route? It wasn't clear from your post whether you
> installed the roll bar and anchored to it or put inertia style belts
> into the rear armrest panel and anchored to some other part of the car.
>
> >> Anyone have any experience with installing front shoulder belts in a
> >> convertible. I have a 67 convertible that will be more driver than show
> >> car and where possible safety improvements will be made. Is it possible
> >> to put some after market shoulder harnesses into a convertible?
> >
> >I sent out a similar request several months ago... basically here is what
> >I found out...
> >
> >0) Install a roll-bar and anchor to that for absolute best results. Belts
> > (not harnesses) from donor cars are cheaper.
> >1) If you're ever going to show... don't do anything.
> >2) If you do it... try to use original parts (say from the coupe)
> >3) Many shops won't do this for liability purposes... but be careful
> > to mount the anchor point up high enough to keep the belts from
> > slipping down your shoulder... also make sure that the anchor point
> > is into/through some of the stronger body metal and not just a single
> > sheet of thin metal
> >4) Some folks have put in the "inertial reel" style where the belt gets
> > hidden under the rear-seat ash-tray/armrest panels... others are simply
> > mounting belts at the anchor and letting them hang free.
> >5) You'll "feel" much safer after your belts are installed.
> >
> >If you're in the SF-Bay area... Mustang Fever in Santa Clara has some
> >experience and has done at least two cars (mine included) that I am
> >aware of.... good luck.
> >
> >--Tom
> >
> >
>
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