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Mail From: (email redacted) (Robert Swanson)
Hi all,
Does anyone have any tips on repairing the clutch pedal shaft in a 65-68
Mustang? The shaft in my '67 is only loosely attached to the pedal,
which allowed the pedal to wobble left and right. I've bought a repair
kit, which includes a new shaft, and I have a couple of questions about
how to proceed:
1. What's the best way to swage the new shaft into place? I'm also
considering welding the old one in place, which, it seems to me, might
be a longer lasting repair. Has anyone done that?
2. Once the pedal and shaft assembly is repaired, how DO you re-install
the clutch pedal spring (the one under the dash). It's one stiff
sonofagun, and I only got it out by partially removing the bracket.
Thanks for your help,
Rob
Mail From: (email redacted) (Robert Swanson)
Hi all,
Does anyone have any tips on repairing the clutch pedal shaft in a 65-68
Mustang? The shaft in my '67 is only loosely attached to the pedal,
which allowed the pedal to wobble left and right. I've bought a repair
kit, which includes a new shaft, and I have a couple of questions about
how to proceed:
1. What's the best way to swage the new shaft into place? I'm also
considering welding the old one in place, which, it seems to me, might
be a longer lasting repair. Has anyone done that?
2. Once the pedal and shaft assembly is repaired, how DO you re-install
the clutch pedal spring (the one under the dash). It's one stiff
sonofagun, and I only got it out by partially removing the bracket.
Thanks for your help,
Rob
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Mail From: (email redacted) (Rob Zanussi)
At 10:40 AM 11/23/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>
>1. What's the best way to swage the new shaft into place? I'm also
>considering welding the old one in place, which, it seems to me, might
>be a longer lasting repair. Has anyone done that?
I replaced the shaft with the new one, welded it to the pedal. Then it is a
bitch to install. Especially with the plastic bushings.
>
>2. Once the pedal and shaft assembly is repaired, how DO you re-install
>the clutch pedal spring (the one under the dash). It's one stiff
>sonofagun, and I only got it out by partially removing the bracket.
I used a big screw driver to remove the spring, but it still is not
reinstalled and this is 4 yrs later. I have no idea how Ford put it on
initially but it is an even bigger bitch than the shaft.
Good Luck
Rob
>
>Thanks for your help,
>
>Rob
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Mail From: (email redacted) (Rob Zanussi)
At 10:40 AM 11/23/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>
>1. What's the best way to swage the new shaft into place? I'm also
>considering welding the old one in place, which, it seems to me, might
>be a longer lasting repair. Has anyone done that?
I replaced the shaft with the new one, welded it to the pedal. Then it is a
bitch to install. Especially with the plastic bushings.
>
>2. Once the pedal and shaft assembly is repaired, how DO you re-install
>the clutch pedal spring (the one under the dash). It's one stiff
>sonofagun, and I only got it out by partially removing the bracket.
I used a big screw driver to remove the spring, but it still is not
reinstalled and this is 4 yrs later. I have no idea how Ford put it on
initially but it is an even bigger bitch than the shaft.
Good Luck
Rob
>
>Thanks for your help,
>
>Rob
>
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Mail From: (email redacted) (David J. Hammar)
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:40:28 -0500, Robert Swanson <(email redacted)>
wrote:
> Does anyone have any tips on repairing the clutch pedal shaft in a 65-68
> Mustang? The shaft in my '67 is only loosely attached to the pedal,
> which allowed the pedal to wobble left and right. I've bought a repair
> kit, which includes a new shaft, and I have a couple of questions about
> how to proceed:
> 1. What's the best way to swage the new shaft into place? I'm also
> considering welding the old one in place, which, it seems to me, might
> be a longer lasting repair. Has anyone done that?
I've only replaced the entire pedal & shaft assembly, since generally the
shaft isn't as damaged as the pedal support brace, once the plastic bushings
have disintegrated.
There was a pretty good article published many years ago in Mustang Monthly
(November 1987, Page 22) on rebuilding the clutch pedal/brace assembly
without removing it from the vehicle, but after trying it that way once, I
can attest that the job is MUCH easier if the entire assembly is removed
from the car first, by unbolting it from the firewall and steering column,
disconnecting the clutch and brake master cylinder pushrods and any attached
wiring, carefully rotating it into an inverted position, and extracting it
from under the dash. The trickiest part here is keeping the clutch pedal in
the "neutral buoyancy" position, since the spring tension on the pedal has a
tendency to snap it back against the firewall with tremendous force.
> 2. Once the pedal and shaft assembly is repaired, how DO you re-install
> the clutch pedal spring (the one under the dash). It's one stiff
> sonofagun, and I only got it out by partially removing the bracket.
Once the pedal/brace assembly is removed from the car, it's possible to
hyperextend the pedal far enough to slip that spring on and or off with no
trouble whatsoever. Be sure to replace both "U"-shaped plastic bushings
with new ones before reassembling, though, and use the correct plastic shaft
bushings to keep the shaft and brace from immediately starting to wear out
again.
Reinstalling into the car is only slightly trickier, but you do need to
exercise just a bit more care in keeping the clutch pedal in the forward
position to avoid mauling your dash and/or steering column paint.
Mail From: (email redacted) (David J. Hammar)
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:40:28 -0500, Robert Swanson <(email redacted)>
wrote:
> Does anyone have any tips on repairing the clutch pedal shaft in a 65-68
> Mustang? The shaft in my '67 is only loosely attached to the pedal,
> which allowed the pedal to wobble left and right. I've bought a repair
> kit, which includes a new shaft, and I have a couple of questions about
> how to proceed:
> 1. What's the best way to swage the new shaft into place? I'm also
> considering welding the old one in place, which, it seems to me, might
> be a longer lasting repair. Has anyone done that?
I've only replaced the entire pedal & shaft assembly, since generally the
shaft isn't as damaged as the pedal support brace, once the plastic bushings
have disintegrated.
There was a pretty good article published many years ago in Mustang Monthly
(November 1987, Page 22) on rebuilding the clutch pedal/brace assembly
without removing it from the vehicle, but after trying it that way once, I
can attest that the job is MUCH easier if the entire assembly is removed
from the car first, by unbolting it from the firewall and steering column,
disconnecting the clutch and brake master cylinder pushrods and any attached
wiring, carefully rotating it into an inverted position, and extracting it
from under the dash. The trickiest part here is keeping the clutch pedal in
the "neutral buoyancy" position, since the spring tension on the pedal has a
tendency to snap it back against the firewall with tremendous force.
> 2. Once the pedal and shaft assembly is repaired, how DO you re-install
> the clutch pedal spring (the one under the dash). It's one stiff
> sonofagun, and I only got it out by partially removing the bracket.
Once the pedal/brace assembly is removed from the car, it's possible to
hyperextend the pedal far enough to slip that spring on and or off with no
trouble whatsoever. Be sure to replace both "U"-shaped plastic bushings
with new ones before reassembling, though, and use the correct plastic shaft
bushings to keep the shaft and brace from immediately starting to wear out
again.
Reinstalling into the car is only slightly trickier, but you do need to
exercise just a bit more care in keeping the clutch pedal in the forward
position to avoid mauling your dash and/or steering column paint.
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Mail From: (email redacted) (Rich Silva)
At 10:59 AM 11/23/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>At 10:40 AM 11/23/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >2. Once the pedal and shaft assembly is repaired, how DO you re-install
> >the clutch pedal spring (the one under the dash). It's one stiff
> >sonofagun, and I only got it out by partially removing the bracket.
>
>I used a big screw driver to remove the spring, but it still is not
>reinstalled and this is 4 yrs later. I have no idea how Ford put it on
>initially but it is an even bigger bitch than the shaft.
Hmmm, I dont recall how I did it... CRS disease, I guess... Here are some
ideas that come to mind, but may have no relation to reality...
1) Somehow mount the bracket to a workbench... Then you can screw in a
block of wood into an appropriate place to give you the right leverage...
2) I seem to remember getting really close by putting a loop of rope around
one hook, the other around my wrist and pushing/pulling it into place...
3) Get some wooden wedges and pry the spring open in a few places...
4) Partially mount the bracket and spring... then turn the bracket back
into place until you can get a nail, punch or other centering device into
another hole... You should be able to work it from there...
5) Build a spring spreader with a 2x4... Put some bolts a distance apart
through the board put a loop of rope around one bolt and one spring end...
On the other end hook one end of one of those ratcheting tie straps to the
bolt, the other to the spring... Now pull the spring open... Use the board
to get the spring in place, then release the ratchet or cut the rope
(carefully) to release the spring in place...
Rich
>Good Luck
>
>Rob
>
> >
> >Thanks for your help,
> >
> >Rob
> >
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Mail From: (email redacted) (Rich Silva)
At 10:59 AM 11/23/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>At 10:40 AM 11/23/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >2. Once the pedal and shaft assembly is repaired, how DO you re-install
> >the clutch pedal spring (the one under the dash). It's one stiff
> >sonofagun, and I only got it out by partially removing the bracket.
>
>I used a big screw driver to remove the spring, but it still is not
>reinstalled and this is 4 yrs later. I have no idea how Ford put it on
>initially but it is an even bigger bitch than the shaft.
Hmmm, I dont recall how I did it... CRS disease, I guess... Here are some
ideas that come to mind, but may have no relation to reality...
1) Somehow mount the bracket to a workbench... Then you can screw in a
block of wood into an appropriate place to give you the right leverage...
2) I seem to remember getting really close by putting a loop of rope around
one hook, the other around my wrist and pushing/pulling it into place...
3) Get some wooden wedges and pry the spring open in a few places...
4) Partially mount the bracket and spring... then turn the bracket back
into place until you can get a nail, punch or other centering device into
another hole... You should be able to work it from there...
5) Build a spring spreader with a 2x4... Put some bolts a distance apart
through the board put a loop of rope around one bolt and one spring end...
On the other end hook one end of one of those ratcheting tie straps to the
bolt, the other to the spring... Now pull the spring open... Use the board
to get the spring in place, then release the ratchet or cut the rope
(carefully) to release the spring in place...
Rich
>Good Luck
>
>Rob
>
> >
> >Thanks for your help,
> >
> >Rob
> >
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Mail From: (email redacted) (B Shibley)
I had mine all apart, so I went one more step with it.... I installed
torrington bearings(flat bearing sandwiched between two removeable halves)
in my pedal mount (bracket, or whatever you'd call it) on each side.
It required slightly oversized holes be made, but now the movement is smooth
and reliable.
Bruce
67
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Swanson" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 7:40 AM
Subject: [CM] Clutch pedal shaft repair questions
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone have any tips on repairing the clutch pedal shaft in a 65-68
> Mustang? The shaft in my '67 is only loosely attached to the pedal,
> which allowed the pedal to wobble left and right. I've bought a repair
> kit, which includes a new shaft, and I have a couple of questions about
> how to proceed:
>
> 1. What's the best way to swage the new shaft into place? I'm also
> considering welding the old one in place, which, it seems to me, might
> be a longer lasting repair. Has anyone done that?
>
> 2. Once the pedal and shaft assembly is repaired, how DO you re-install
> the clutch pedal spring (the one under the dash). It's one stiff
> sonofagun, and I only got it out by partially removing the bracket.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Rob
>
> _______________________________________________
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> mix.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo/classic-mustangs
Mail From: (email redacted) (B Shibley)
I had mine all apart, so I went one more step with it.... I installed
torrington bearings(flat bearing sandwiched between two removeable halves)
in my pedal mount (bracket, or whatever you'd call it) on each side.
It required slightly oversized holes be made, but now the movement is smooth
and reliable.
Bruce
67
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Swanson" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 7:40 AM
Subject: [CM] Clutch pedal shaft repair questions
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone have any tips on repairing the clutch pedal shaft in a 65-68
> Mustang? The shaft in my '67 is only loosely attached to the pedal,
> which allowed the pedal to wobble left and right. I've bought a repair
> kit, which includes a new shaft, and I have a couple of questions about
> how to proceed:
>
> 1. What's the best way to swage the new shaft into place? I'm also
> considering welding the old one in place, which, it seems to me, might
> be a longer lasting repair. Has anyone done that?
>
> 2. Once the pedal and shaft assembly is repaired, how DO you re-install
> the clutch pedal spring (the one under the dash). It's one stiff
> sonofagun, and I only got it out by partially removing the bracket.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Rob
>
> _______________________________________________
> Classic-mustangs mailing list
> (email redacted)
> mix.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo/classic-mustangs
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