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Great stuff

JRM Iphone

On Jun 26, 2009, at 12:04 AM, classic-mustangs-request at lists.twistedpair.ca
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> 1. Re: oil pressure (Z. Ray)
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> 4. Re: Speaking of oil... (Steve Hawkins)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:09:55 -0500
> From: "Z. Ray" <zrichter at austin.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [CM] oil pressure
> To: classic-mustangs at lists.twistedpair.ca
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> I use the copper line (with my Autometer gauge) as well. I hope it
> will be more durable than the plastic type.
>
> Z. Ray
> '66 GT-350
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2009, at 7:44 PM, classic-mustangs-
> request at lists.twistedpair.ca wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:43:30 -0500
>> From: "Chris Kelly" <ckelly at raceabilene.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CM] oil pressure
>> To: "'A list for owners of Classic Mustangs'"
>> <classic-mustangs at lists.twistedpair.ca>
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>> I use 1/8" copper lines and have yet to have a failure. Support
>> the lines
>> properly so they don't endure a lot of flex and protect them where
>> they pass
>> through sheet metal. And they should last a long time. I don't buy
>> cheap -
>> Autometer 2 3/8" race gauges.
>>
>>
>>
>> I need a responsive oil pressure gauge. On the street, maybe not
>> so much.
>> But I need to know right now what the pressure is because I use it
>> to tell
>> if the motor is at race temp. I also look at it on the top end to
>> make sure
>> I still have a motor LOL. The 351Cs here start at 76 PSI cold and
>> 35~40 in
>> gear when at full op temp.
>>
>>
>>
>> Both cars have an electric trans temp gauges - it's like a week
>> behind in
>> giving out a reading. I will switch them to mechanical gauges next
>> year.
>> The only other electric gauges in the cars are volt. Just my
>> preference.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> =====================================
>> Chris Kelly - ckelly at raceabilene.com
>> raceabilene.net/kelly/hotrod
>> Merkel, Texas
>> Member:
>> International Hot Rod Association
>> Abilene Performance Car Association
>> Falcon Club of America
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> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:39:48 -0700
> From: Mike H <mahilly at gmail.com>
> Subject: [CM] Speaking of oil...
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> I just read Mustang Monthly's article about motor oil no longer
> containing
> zinc and it's adverse affect on our old engines. This is the first
> time I
> have heard of this, so maybe I just haven't been paying attention.
> However,
> I can't help but think MM is also trying to move an advertisers
> product with
> this article. Curious to hear your expert opinions whether or not
> this is a
> subject to be concerned about. What say you all?
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> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:14:31 -1000
> From: Rockresort <rockresort at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [CM] Classic-mustangs Digest, Vol 75, Issue 28
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> Great ideas
>
> JRM Iphone
>
> On Jun 25, 2009, at 2:44 PM, classic-mustangs-request at lists.twistedpair.ca
> wrote:
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>> 1. Re: oil pressure (Greg McArthur)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:54:38 -0600
>> From: "Greg McArthur" <gregm at xmission.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CM] oil pressure
>> To: "'A list for owners of Classic Mustangs'"
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>> On the government mandated thing:
>>
>>
>>
>> They're putting the money in the wrong place. The US auto industry
>> wants
>> $34B. They sell 17M cars a year. The $34B can be put into the
>> economy by
>> giving a $2K tax credit to anyone that buys a US made automobile.
>> Detroit
>> sells their 17M cars and makes their money the old fashioned way. US
>> consumers get US made product at what amounts to a $2K discount.
>>
>>
>>
>> I like my political soap box but will yield the floor..
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
>> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
>> Dan
>> O'Reilly
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:48 PM
>> To: gregm at xmission.com
>> Subject: Re: [CM] oil pressure
>>
>>
>>
>> Heck, give Government Motors and their CEO - BHO - a couple
>> years...it's
>> already been mandated WHAT we'll be driving in just a couple years!
>> Colors
>> might be different, but they'll all be tiny - and unsafe - econo-
>> boxes!
>>
>>
>>
>> But I'll get off my political soapbox now...sorry 'bout that...it's
>> just one
>> of those topics that always sets me off!
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
>> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
>> Greg
>> McArthur
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:43 PM
>> To: Dan O'Reilly
>> Subject: Re: [CM] oil pressure
>>
>> I like electric.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is fast response a necessity for oil pressure?
>>
>> When the (usually) nylon pressure line fails you have hot oil
>> filling your
>> lap at 50 psi.
>>
>> My gauges are 270 deg sweep.
>>
>>
>>
>> Its good we don't all like the same thing. We'd all be driving
>> Suburbans or
>> something.
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
>> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
>> Z. Ray
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:30 PM
>> To: gregm at xmission.com
>> Subject: Re: [CM] oil pressure
>>
>>
>>
>> 1)faster responce,
>>
>> 2) no sending unit to fail
>>
>> 3) electric gauges are often "short sweep". I prefer the "long
>> sweep" type.
>>
>>
>>
>> Z.
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2009, at 5:14 PM, classic-mustangs-request at lists.twistedpair.ca
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Message: 3
>>
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:12:34 -0600
>>
>> From: "Greg McArthur" <gregm at xmission.com>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [CM] Classic-mustangs Digest, Vol 75, Issue 22
>>
>> To: "'A list for owners of Classic Mustangs'"
>>
>> <classic-mustangs at lists.twistedpair.ca>
>>
>> Message-ID: <000001c9f5e2$0afcbf40$20f63dc0$@com>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>>
>> Why?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
>>
>> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
>> Z. Ray
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:06 PM
>>
>> To: gregm at xmission.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: [CM] Classic-mustangs Digest, Vol 75, Issue 22
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If I was adding an after-market gauge (and I have) I would use a
>> mechanical
>>
>> gauge for oil pressure, not one with a sending unit.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Z. Ray
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:43:30 -0500
>> From: "Chris Kelly" <ckelly at raceabilene.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CM] oil pressure
>> To: "'A list for owners of Classic Mustangs'"
>> <classic-mustangs at lists.twistedpair.ca>
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>>
>> I use 1/8" copper lines and have yet to have a failure. Support the
>> lines
>> properly so they don't endure a lot of flex and protect them where
>> they pass
>> through sheet metal. And they should last a long time. I don't buy
>> cheap -
>> Autometer 2 3/8" race gauges.
>>
>>
>>
>> I need a responsive oil pressure gauge. On the street, maybe not so
>> much.
>> But I need to know right now what the pressure is because I use it
>> to tell
>> if the motor is at race temp. I also look at it on the top end to
>> make sure
>> I still have a motor LOL. The 351Cs here start at 76 PSI cold and
>> 35~40 in
>> gear when at full op temp.
>>
>>
>>
>> Both cars have an electric trans temp gauges - it's like a week
>> behind in
>> giving out a reading. I will switch them to mechanical gauges next
>> year.
>> The only other electric gauges in the cars are volt. Just my
>> preference.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> =====================================
>> Chris Kelly - ckelly at raceabilene.com
>> raceabilene.net/kelly/hotrod
>> Merkel, Texas
>> Member:
>> International Hot Rod Association
>> Abilene Performance Car Association
>> Falcon Club of America
>> =====================================
>>
>> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
>> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
>> Greg
>> McArthur
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:50 PM
>> To: Chris Kelly
>> Subject: Re: [CM] oil pressure
>>
>>
>>
>> Mechanical gauges can be accurate. The bourdon tube design is well
>> known.
>>
>>
>>
>> Most mechanical pressure gauges are 4-3-4 accuracy. The bottom and
>> top 1/3
>> of the scale is accurate to 4% of full scale, while the middle 1/3 is
>> accurate to 3% of full scale. Amatek US gauge has been making this
>> design
>> for automotive, industrial, and medical applications for over 100
>> years.
>>
>>
>>
>> That being said, I prefer electric for the reasons you have stated.
>> I hated
>> that lap full of hot oil.
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
>> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
>> Wal
>> Marshall
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:33 PM
>> To: gregm at xmission.com
>> Subject: Re: [CM] oil pressure
>>
>>
>>
>> Ive had two mechanical oil pressure gauge failures, both caused by
>> fractures
>> in the sending lines. One emptied the engine of oil as I drove and I
>> only
>> noticed when the "idiot" light came on as there was no oil pressure
>> (fortunately it saved the motor), . The other I noticed quickly
>> because it
>> was dumping engine oil on the interior carpet which then had to be
>> completely replaced as you cant get the stain/smell out) One line was
>> plastic and got brittle on the engine bay heat, one was copper, and
>> cracked
>> through at a junction.
>>
>>
>>
>> As a result I now only buy electric gauges even though they are more
>> expensive. Good quality versions have good sweep, and Ive never had
>> a sender
>> leak or fail. Im fairly sure that accuracy on quality electric
>> gauges will
>> be as good as mechanical gauges, and certainly better than the "el-
>> cheapo"
>> mechanical gauges. (I had three at one stage and when tested on my
>> compressor they read different by over 10 psi. I tossed them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Wal
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
>> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
>> Z. Ray
>> Sent: Friday, 26 June 2009 10:30 a.m.
>> To: Wal Marshall
>> Subject: Re: [CM] oil pressure
>>
>> 1)faster responce,
>>
>> 2) no sending unit to fail
>>
>> 3) electric gauges are often "short sweep". I prefer the "long
>> sweep" type.
>>
>>
>>
>> Z.
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2009, at 5:14 PM, classic-mustangs-request at lists.twistedpair.ca
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Message: 3
>>
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:12:34 -0600
>>
>> From: "Greg McArthur" <gregm at xmission.com>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [CM] Classic-mustangs Digest, Vol 75, Issue 22
>>
>> To: "'A list for owners of Classic Mustangs'"
>>
>> <classic-mustangs at lists.twistedpair.ca>
>>
>> Message-ID: <000001c9f5e2$0afcbf40$20f63dc0$@com>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>>
>> Why?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca
>>
>> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
>> Z. Ray
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:06 PM
>>
>> To: gregm at xmission.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: [CM] Classic-mustangs Digest, Vol 75, Issue 22
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If I was adding an after-market gauge (and I have) I would use a
>> mechanical
>>
>> gauge for oil pressure, not one with a sending unit.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Z. Ray
>>
>>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:04:07 -0500
> From: "Steve Hawkins" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [CM] Speaking of oil...
> To: "'A list for owners of Classic Mustangs'"
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> There is some truth to that, depends on the oil, just pay attention
> to which
> one you buy.
>
> Steve
>
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> [mailto:classic-mustangs-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of
> Mike H
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:40 AM
> To: shawkins777 at comcast.net
> Subject: [CM] Speaking of oil...
>
>
> I just read Mustang Monthly's article about motor oil no longer
> containing
> zinc and it's adverse affect on our old engines. This is the first
> time I
> have heard of this, so maybe I just haven't been paying attention.
> However,
> I can't help but think MM is also trying to move an advertisers
> product with
> this article. Curious to hear your expert opinions whether or not
> this is a
> subject to be concerned about. What say you all?
>
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