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my 69 mustang has the four headlight system. I pulled them out and went to Murrays Auto and bought halogens. They provide far more light than the old bulbs. I also used stronger bulbs in my taillights. and dash

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1. Re: headlight conversion? (Abraham Miller)
2. RE: headlight conversion? (Christian Kronenwetter)
3. Re: headlight conversion? (David)
4. RE: 65 Manual Drum Brakes Question (Chris Kelly)
5. Re: headlight conversion? (Marc Cramer)
6. Re: headlight conversion? (KandM)
7. Re: headlight conversion? (Abraham Miller)


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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:31:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Abraham Miller
Subject: Re: [CM] headlight conversion?
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs

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As a plus - that same article actually did side-by-side comparisons for the halogen, incandescent, and some other sealed type ( I think)


Michael 'Moose' Dinn wrote:


Anyone else converted their headlights to the more modern
replace-only-the-bulb type?

Any pointers to kits, tips, etc?


Anyone done it in a '72?

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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:51:14 -0500
From: "Christian Kronenwetter"
Subject: RE: [CM] headlight conversion?
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The new Xenon?



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Subject: Re: [CM] headlight conversion?



As a plus - that same article actually did side-by-side comparisons for the
halogen, incandescent, and some other sealed type ( I think)



Michael 'Moose' Dinn wrote:



Anyone else converted their headlights to the more modern
replace-only-the-bulb type?

Any pointers to kits, tips, etc?


Anyone done it in a '72?

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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:09:13 -0800
From: David
Subject: Re: [CM] headlight conversion?
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs

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I've used the Bosch and Hella E-code headlights with H4's (and H1 bulbs
in 4-lamp sytems). Pop right in with no changes but suggest the relay
upgrade as mentioned on this list before. Love 'em. The standard
55w/65w is a huge improvement over sealed halogens but wattages to over
100 are availble along with blue and yellow versions. I have not tried
more recent DOT-type bling-bling models.

Anyone have a scan of the article to post? Some direct comparisons
would be great.

David

Michael 'Moose' Dinn wrote:
>
> Anyone else converted their headlights to the more modern
> replace-only-the-bulb type?
>
> Any pointers to kits, tips, etc?
>
>
> Anyone done it in a '72?


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:32:38 -0600
From: "Chris Kelly"
Subject: RE: [CM] 65 Manual Drum Brakes Question
To: "'A list for owners of Classic Mustangs'"

Message-ID: <(email redacted)>
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Probably have a wheel cylinder locking up or you might have one that refuses
to work at all, leading to brakes on one corner. A car that sits for any
time - especially two years - needs to have the brakes gone through
completely. Brake fluid like water and water corrodes parts. I'd replace
everything but the drums, steel lines and backing plates - and replace the
drums if they can't be turned while eyeing the steel lines suspiciously.

=====================================
Chris Kelly - (email redacted)
raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod
Merkel, Texas
Member:
International Hot Rod Association
Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
=====================================


> -----Original Message-----
> From: (email redacted)
> [mailtoemail redacted)] On
> Behalf Of Ben Witso
> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:53 PM
> To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
> Subject: [CM] 65 Manual Drum Brakes Question
>
> Hi All,
>
. Any
> ideas on what might have "changed" or "broke" all of the
> sudden to cause the one wheel to lock up?
>
> Ben in Minnesota



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:17:46 -0800
From: Marc Cramer
Subject: Re: [CM] headlight conversion?
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:23:06 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: KandM

Subject: Re: [CM] headlight conversion?
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs

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Yes, I've done it - works well on my 1971, convertible.
...even without the add on, relay type, wiring harness the light is better with the H4/9003 replacement lense and bulb set up.
HOWEVER, (there is always a however) watch what company you pick your lenses from - some do not have DOT legal lenses.
But, this may only be a factor if you aim them incorrectly, thereby drawing attention to your lights, which could get you a ticket for illegal lenses.

I ran a "Z" beam, Cebie (DOT legal) lense, for years. One Broke, so, I replaced both. Internal lense oxidation on the old ones was only apparent in a side by side comparison, they were ~25 years old.

Also - H4 bulbs are identicle to 9003 bulbs. This information straight from Sylvania. One is marketed for motorcycles and the like, the other is the "auto industry" designation - they are the same bulb.
...Buy the one that is least expensive, in the light type you want - straight halogen, up grade blue, super fancy high brightness, etc. - just make sure you stay witht he 55/60 watt bulb for street legal use.

****Do not get the "high watt" bulbs, 90/100 watt rated, (one) they are not legal on the street and (two) your stock head light system will not handle them without the add on harness.

Did I mention that you should aim your head lights, no?
Always check head light aim when you replace a lamp or lense - nothing is exatly the same, so, please re-aim!

KandM

-----Original Message-----
>From: Marc Cramer
>Sent: Mar 15, 2006 8:17 AM
>I would be interested in the information also.

>Thanks,

>Marc Cramer


>

>
There was a mustang monthy or classic fords article on that one...

> I have the article at home, they mentioned some vendors - if I
>can find it, I'll forward it on.

>


>

>Anyone else converted their headlights to the more modern

>replace-only-the-bulb type?

>Any pointers to kits, tips, etc?

>Anyone done it in a '72?





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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:38:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Abraham Miller
Subject: Re: [CM] headlight conversion?
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs

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ugh - sorry - I ran out of time last night (had to pack and study for final today...) Going to San Jose, Ca for training for work and won't be back for a week.

If anyone else is a subscriber to Mustang and Fords magazine, I think that article ran between 3-6 months ago... their site may have it. But if you can wait - I'll be back next wednesday night.

The gist of the article was the upgrade was worth the safety, but a relay harness (and potentially an alternator upgrade) is recommended to prevent wires from melting.

Sorry about that - I saw my two boxes of prior copies this morning on my way out the door and actually considered packing em...

Abe

Marc Cramer wrote:
Hello,

I would be interested in the information also.

Thanks,

Marc Cramer

Subject:
Re: [CM] headlight conversion? From:
Abraham Miller Date:
Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:30:14 -0800 (PST) To:
A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
There was a mustang monthy or classic fords article on that one...
I have the article at home, they mentioned some vendors - if I can find it, I'll forward it on.

Abe

Michael 'Moose' Dinn wrote:


Anyone else converted their headlights to the more modern
replace-only-the-bulb type?

Any pointers to kits, tips, etc?


Anyone done it in a '72?

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How hard was it to pull your dash?



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my 69 mustang has the four headlight system. I pulled them out and went to
Murrays Auto and bought halogens. They provide far more light than the old
bulbs. I also used stronger bulbs in my taillights. and dash

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: headlight conversion? (Abraham Miller)
2. RE: headlight conversion? (Christian Kronenwetter)
3. Re: headlight conversion? (David)
4. RE: 65 Manual Drum Brakes Question (Chris Kelly)
5. Re: headlight conversion? (Marc Cramer)
6. Re: headlight conversion? (KandM)
7. Re: headlight conversion? (Abraham Miller)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:31:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Abraham Miller
Subject: Re: [CM] headlight conversion?
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs

Message-ID: <(email redacted)>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

As a plus - that same article actually did side-by-side comparisons for the
halogen, incandescent, and some other sealed type ( I think)


Michael 'Moose' Dinn wrote:


Anyone else converted their headlights to the more modern
replace-only-the-bulb type?

Any pointers to kits, tips, etc?


Anyone done it in a '72?

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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:51:14 -0500
From: "Christian Kronenwetter"
Subject: RE: [CM] headlight conversion?
To: "'A list for owners of Classic Mustangs'"

Message-ID: <(email redacted)>
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The new Xenon?



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Miller
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:31 AM
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
Subject: Re: [CM] headlight conversion?



As a plus - that same article actually did side-by-side comparisons for the
halogen, incandescent, and some other sealed type ( I think)



Michael 'Moose' Dinn wrote:



Anyone else converted their headlights to the more modern
replace-only-the-bulb type?

Any pointers to kits, tips, etc?


Anyone done it in a '72?

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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:09:13 -0800
From: David
Subject: Re: [CM] headlight conversion?
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs

Message-ID: <(email redacted)>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I've used the Bosch and Hella E-code headlights with H4's (and H1 bulbs
in 4-lamp sytems). Pop right in with no changes but suggest the relay
upgrade as mentioned on this list before. Love 'em. The standard
55w/65w is a huge improvement over sealed halogens but wattages to over
100 are availble along with blue and yellow versions. I have not tried
more recent DOT-type bling-bling models.

Anyone have a scan of the article to post? Some direct comparisons
would be great.

David

Michael 'Moose' Dinn wrote:
>
> Anyone else converted their headlights to the more modern
> replace-only-the-bulb type?
>
> Any pointers to kits, tips, etc?
>
>
> Anyone done it in a '72?


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:32:38 -0600
From: "Chris Kelly"
Subject: RE: [CM] 65 Manual Drum Brakes Question
To: "'A list for owners of Classic Mustangs'"

Message-ID: <(email redacted)>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Prob ably have a wheel cylinder locking up or you might have one that
refuses
to work at all, leading to brakes on one corner. A car that sits for any
time - especially two years - needs to have the brakes gone through
completely. Brake fluid like water and water corrodes parts. I'd replace
everything but the drums, steel lines and backing plates - and replace the
drums if they can't be turned while eyeing the steel lines suspiciously.

=====================================
Chris Kelly - (email redacted)
raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod
Merkel, Texas
Member:
International Hot Rod Association
Abilene Performance Car Association
Falcon Club of America
=====================================


> -----Original Message-----
> From: (email redacted)
> [mailtoemail redacted)] On
> Behalf Of Ben Witso
> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:53 PM
> To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
> Subject: [CM] 65 Manual Drum Brakes Question
>
> Hi All,
>
. Any
> ideas on what might have "changed" or "broke" all of the
> sudden to cause the one wheel to lock up?
>
> Ben in Minnesota



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:17:46 -0800
From: Marc Cramer
Subject: Re: [CM] headlight conversion?
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:23:06 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: KandM
Subject: Re: [ CM] headlight conversion?
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Yes, I've done it - works well on my 1971, convertible.
...even without the add on, relay type, wiring harness the light is better
with the H4/9003 replacement lense and bulb set up.
HOWEVER, (there is always a however) watch what company you pick your lenses
from - some do not have DOT legal lenses.
But, this may only be a factor if you aim them incorrectly, thereby drawing
attention to your lights, which could get you a ticket for illegal lenses.

I ran a "Z" beam, Cebie (DOT legal) lense, for years. One Broke, so, I
replaced both. Internal lense oxidation on the old ones was only apparent in
a side by side comparison, they were ~25 years old.

Also - H4 bulbs are identicl e to 9003 bulbs. This information straight from
Sylvania. One is marketed for motorcycles and the like, the other is the
"auto industry" designation - they are the same bulb.
...Buy the one that is least expensive, in the light type you want -
straight halogen, up grade blue, super fancy high brightness, etc. - just
make sure you stay witht he 55/60 watt bulb for street legal use.

****Do not get the "high watt" bulbs, 90/100 watt rated, (one) they are not
legal on the street and (two) your stock head light system will not handle
them without the add on harness.

Did I mention that you should aim your head lights, no?
Always check head light aim when you replace a lamp or lense - nothing is
exatly the same, so, please re-aim!

KandM

-----Original Message-----
>From: Marc Cramer
>Sent: Mar 15, 2006 8:17 AM
>I would be interested in the information also.

>Thanks,

>Marc Cramer


>

>

There was a mustang monthy or classic fords article on that one...


>

I have the article at home, they mentioned some vendors - if I
>can find it, I'll forward it on.


>





>

>Anyone else converted their headlights to the more modern

>replace-only-the-bulb type?

>Any pointers to kits, tips, etc?

>Anyone done it in a '72?





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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:38:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Abraham Miller
Subject: Re: [CM] headlight conversion?
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs

Message-ID: <(email redacted)>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

ugh - sorry - I ran out of time last night (had to pack and study for final
today...) Going to San Jose, Ca for training for work and won't be back for
a week.

If anyone else is a subscriber to Mustang and Fords magazine, I think that
article ran between 3-6 months ago... their site may have it. But if you can
wait - I'll be back next wednesday night.

The gist of the article was the upgrade was worth the safety, but a relay
harness (and potentially an alternator upgrade) is recommended to prevent
wires from melting.

Sorry about that - I saw my two boxes of prior copies this morning on my way
out the door and actually considered packing em...

Abe

Marc Cramer wrote:
Hello,

I would be interested in the information also.

Thanks,

Marc Cramer

Subject:
Re: [CM] headlight conversion? From:
Abraham Miller Date:
Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:30:14 -0800 (PST) To:
A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
There was a mustang monthy or classic fords article on that one...
I have the article at home, they mentioned some vendors - if I can find it,
I'll forward it on.

Abe

Michael 'Moose' Dinn wrote:


Anyone else converted their headlights to the more modern
replace-only-the-bulb type?

Any pointers to kits, tips, etc?


Anyone done it in a '72?

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