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Rick,
>From my experience (HR & Training Manager Shell NSW (AUS)) we did a lot =
of training with our drivers and vehicle fires. Within the petroleum =
industry the 5 types of extinguishers we use are water, CO2, Foam, Dry =
Chem & Wet Chem (used for fats in kitchens). I have a 1kg (just over =
2lb) bottle mounted at the base of the front passenger seat. The dry =
chem although messy when used is great on petrol and electrical fires. =
Caution does need to be used as it can burn the eyes and can cause =
breathing difficulty if inhaled (need to get a good mouthful of it). If =
sprayed directly to the face it can kill a person quicker than the fire =
itself. As someone said a fire needs three things 1. an ignition source =
2. air 2. fuel (paper, fuel, etc). The dry chem interrupts the chain =
reaction. Within a vehicle you are likely to get Class A =
(Carbonaceous), Class B (Flammable/Combustible liquids) or Type E =
(Electrical). Your fire bottles should have the types of fires they are =
used for printed on them.
I have not used Halon so I am unable to comment on it except if its as =
lethal as some have said then if the fire doesn't kill you the Halon =
will.
In answer to Randy's question how big is big enough, it comes down to =
what you want to save. If it's your family then what you have is fine, =
if it's the car you might want to carry a couple in the boot. A 9kg =
(20lb) of Dry Chem will last 22 seconds on a normal spray. Randy, good =
idea about trying one. If you don't know how efficient it is until your =
faced with a fire then its possibly too late. All our drivers go =
through familiarisation of extinguishers on an annual basis.
Cheers,
Chris
68 Coupe
Message: 3
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:50:14 -0500
From: "Rick Larson" <(email redacted)>
To: (email redacted)
Subject: [CM] fire bottle recommendations
Reply-To: (email redacted)
I'm planning to get a fire bottle for my 66.
Anyone have a size recommendation? Type? ABC dry something?
Jeff, got an opinion?
I'll mount it by the front passenger seat/tunnel area. Trunk is
a possibility but seems less convenient in case of an emergency.
Main purpose is to get the kids out safely. I can replace the car.
rick
66 coupe (family owned since 1966)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rick,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From my experience (HR & Training =
Manager Shell=20
NSW (AUS)) we did a lot of training with our drivers and vehicle =
fires. =20
Within the petroleum industry the 5 types of extinguishers we use are =
water,=20
CO2, Foam, Dry Chem & Wet Chem (used for fats in kitchens). I have a =
1kg=20
(just over 2lb) bottle mounted at the base of the front passenger=20
seat. The dry chem although messy when used is great on petrol and =
electrical fires. Caution does need to be used as it can burn the =
eyes and=20
can cause breathing difficulty if inhaled (need to get a good mouthful =
of=20
it). If sprayed directly to the face it can kill a person quicker =
than the=20
fire itself. As someone said a fire needs three things 1. an =
ignition=20
source 2. air 2. fuel (paper, fuel, etc). The dry chem interrupts =
the=20
chain reaction. Within a vehicle you are likely to get Class A=20
(Carbonaceous), Class B (Flammable/Combustible liquids) or Type E=20
(Electrical). Your fire bottles should have the types of fires =
they are=20
used for printed on them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have not used Halon so I am unable to =
comment on=20
it except if its as lethal as some have said then if the fire doesn't =
kill you=20
the Halon will.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In answer to Randy's question how big =
is big=20
enough, it comes down to what you want to save. If it's your =
family then=20
what you have is fine, if it's the car you might want to carry a couple =
in the=20
boot. A 9kg (20lb) of Dry Chem will last 22 seconds on a normal=20
spray. Randy, good idea about trying one. If you don't know =
how=20
efficient it is until your faced with a fire then its possibly too =
late. =20
All our drivers go through familiarisation of extinguishers on an annual =
basis.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>68 Coupe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:50:14 -0500<BR>From: =
"Rick=20
Larson" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto
email redacted)">(email redacted)</A>><BR>To: <A=20
href=3D"mailtoemail redacted)">classic-mustangs@mix.=
twistedpair.ca</A><BR>Subject:=20
[CM] fire bottle recommendations<BR>Reply-To: <A=20
href=3D"mailtoemail redacted)">classic-mustangs@mix.=
twistedpair.ca</A><BR><BR>I'm=20
planning to get a fire bottle for my 66.<BR><BR>Anyone have a size=20
recommendation? Type? ABC dry something?<BR><BR>Jeff, got an =
opinion?<BR><BR>I'll mount it by the front passenger seat/tunnel =
area. =20
Trunk is<BR>a possibility but seems less convenient in case of an=20
emergency.<BR><BR>Main purpose is to get the kids out safely. I =
can=20
replace the car.<BR><BR>rick<BR>66 coupe (family owned since=20
1966)<BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Rick,
>From my experience (HR & Training Manager Shell NSW (AUS)) we did a lot =
of training with our drivers and vehicle fires. Within the petroleum =
industry the 5 types of extinguishers we use are water, CO2, Foam, Dry =
Chem & Wet Chem (used for fats in kitchens). I have a 1kg (just over =
2lb) bottle mounted at the base of the front passenger seat. The dry =
chem although messy when used is great on petrol and electrical fires. =
Caution does need to be used as it can burn the eyes and can cause =
breathing difficulty if inhaled (need to get a good mouthful of it). If =
sprayed directly to the face it can kill a person quicker than the fire =
itself. As someone said a fire needs three things 1. an ignition source =
2. air 2. fuel (paper, fuel, etc). The dry chem interrupts the chain =
reaction. Within a vehicle you are likely to get Class A =
(Carbonaceous), Class B (Flammable/Combustible liquids) or Type E =
(Electrical). Your fire bottles should have the types of fires they are =
used for printed on them.
I have not used Halon so I am unable to comment on it except if its as =
lethal as some have said then if the fire doesn't kill you the Halon =
will.
In answer to Randy's question how big is big enough, it comes down to =
what you want to save. If it's your family then what you have is fine, =
if it's the car you might want to carry a couple in the boot. A 9kg =
(20lb) of Dry Chem will last 22 seconds on a normal spray. Randy, good =
idea about trying one. If you don't know how efficient it is until your =
faced with a fire then its possibly too late. All our drivers go =
through familiarisation of extinguishers on an annual basis.
Cheers,
Chris
68 Coupe
Message: 3
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:50:14 -0500
From: "Rick Larson" <(email redacted)>
To: (email redacted)
Subject: [CM] fire bottle recommendations
Reply-To: (email redacted)
I'm planning to get a fire bottle for my 66.
Anyone have a size recommendation? Type? ABC dry something?
Jeff, got an opinion?
I'll mount it by the front passenger seat/tunnel area. Trunk is
a possibility but seems less convenient in case of an emergency.
Main purpose is to get the kids out safely. I can replace the car.
rick
66 coupe (family owned since 1966)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rick,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From my experience (HR & Training =
Manager Shell=20
NSW (AUS)) we did a lot of training with our drivers and vehicle =
fires. =20
Within the petroleum industry the 5 types of extinguishers we use are =
water,=20
CO2, Foam, Dry Chem & Wet Chem (used for fats in kitchens). I have a =
1kg=20
(just over 2lb) bottle mounted at the base of the front passenger=20
seat. The dry chem although messy when used is great on petrol and =
electrical fires. Caution does need to be used as it can burn the =
eyes and=20
can cause breathing difficulty if inhaled (need to get a good mouthful =
of=20
it). If sprayed directly to the face it can kill a person quicker =
than the=20
fire itself. As someone said a fire needs three things 1. an =
ignition=20
source 2. air 2. fuel (paper, fuel, etc). The dry chem interrupts =
the=20
chain reaction. Within a vehicle you are likely to get Class A=20
(Carbonaceous), Class B (Flammable/Combustible liquids) or Type E=20
(Electrical). Your fire bottles should have the types of fires =
they are=20
used for printed on them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have not used Halon so I am unable to =
comment on=20
it except if its as lethal as some have said then if the fire doesn't =
kill you=20
the Halon will.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In answer to Randy's question how big =
is big=20
enough, it comes down to what you want to save. If it's your =
family then=20
what you have is fine, if it's the car you might want to carry a couple =
in the=20
boot. A 9kg (20lb) of Dry Chem will last 22 seconds on a normal=20
spray. Randy, good idea about trying one. If you don't know =
how=20
efficient it is until your faced with a fire then its possibly too =
late. =20
All our drivers go through familiarisation of extinguishers on an annual =
basis.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>68 Coupe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:50:14 -0500<BR>From: =
"Rick=20
Larson" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto
email redacted)">(email redacted)</A>><BR>To: <A=20href=3D"mailto
email redacted)">classic-mustangs@mix.=twistedpair.ca</A><BR>Subject:=20
[CM] fire bottle recommendations<BR>Reply-To: <A=20
href=3D"mailto
email redacted)">classic-mustangs@mix.=twistedpair.ca</A><BR><BR>I'm=20
planning to get a fire bottle for my 66.<BR><BR>Anyone have a size=20
recommendation? Type? ABC dry something?<BR><BR>Jeff, got an =
opinion?<BR><BR>I'll mount it by the front passenger seat/tunnel =
area. =20
Trunk is<BR>a possibility but seems less convenient in case of an=20
emergency.<BR><BR>Main purpose is to get the kids out safely. I =
can=20
replace the car.<BR><BR>rick<BR>66 coupe (family owned since=20
1966)<BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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<div>On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 13:16:28 +1000, Chris Layt wrote:<br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>Rick,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>From my experience (HR=
& Training Manager Shell NSW (AUS)) we did=
a</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>lot of training with our drivers and=
vehicle fires. Within the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>petroleum industry the 5 types of=
extinguishers we use are water,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>CO2, Foam, Dry Chem & Wet Chem=
(used for fats in kitchens). I have a</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>1kg (just over 2lb) bottle=
mounted at the base of the front</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>passenger seat. The=
dry chem although messy when used is great on</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>petrol and electrical=
fires. Caution does need to be used as it</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>can burn the eyes and can cause=
breathing difficulty if inhaled</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>(need to get a good mouthful of=
it). If sprayed directly to the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>face it can kill a person quicker than=
the fire itself. As someone</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>said a fire needs three things 1. an=
ignition source 2. air 2. fuel</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>(paper, fuel,=
etc).......</FONT><br></div>
<div> </div>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"></FONT><div> </div>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"></FONT><div>There is a fourth component=
.... "chemical reaction" that makes up the fire=
tetrahedron. Just in case someone is taking note
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<div>On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 13:16:28 +1000, Chris Layt wrote:<br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>Rick,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>From my experience (HR=
& Training Manager Shell NSW (AUS)) we did=
a</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>lot of training with our drivers and=
vehicle fires. Within the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>petroleum industry the 5 types of=
extinguishers we use are water,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>CO2, Foam, Dry Chem & Wet Chem=
(used for fats in kitchens). I have a</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>1kg (just over 2lb) bottle=
mounted at the base of the front</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>passenger seat. The=
dry chem although messy when used is great on</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>petrol and electrical=
fires. Caution does need to be used as it</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>can burn the eyes and can cause=
breathing difficulty if inhaled</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>(need to get a good mouthful of=
it). If sprayed directly to the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>face it can kill a person quicker than=
the fire itself. As someone</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>said a fire needs three things 1. an=
ignition source 2. air 2. fuel</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">>(paper, fuel,=
etc).......</FONT><br></div>
<div> </div>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"></FONT><div> </div>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"></FONT><div>There is a fourth component=
.... "chemical reaction" that makes up the fire=
tetrahedron. Just in case someone is taking note
<br></div></body></html>
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Correction to your codes type 'C' is Electrical Fire. Type 'D' Metals =
(forget trying to put out).=20
Gary Moore
World Mustang Association
Mustang1964.homestead.com
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Chris Layt=20
To: (email redacted)=20
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 8:16 PM
Subject: [CM] Re: Classic-mustangs digest, Vol 1 #924 - 13 msgs
Rick,
From my experience (HR & Training Manager Shell NSW (AUS)) we did a =
lot of training with our drivers and vehicle fires. Within the =
petroleum industry the 5 types of extinguishers we use are water, CO2, =
Foam, Dry Chem & Wet Chem (used for fats in kitchens). I have a 1kg =
(just over 2lb) bottle mounted at the base of the front passenger seat. =
The dry chem although messy when used is great on petrol and electrical =
fires. Caution does need to be used as it can burn the eyes and can =
cause breathing difficulty if inhaled (need to get a good mouthful of =
it). If sprayed directly to the face it can kill a person quicker than =
the fire itself. As someone said a fire needs three things 1. an =
ignition source 2. air 2. fuel (paper, fuel, etc). The dry chem =
interrupts the chain reaction. Within a vehicle you are likely to get =
Class A (Carbonaceous), Class B (Flammable/Combustible liquids) or Type =
E (Electrical). Your fire bottles should have the types of fires they =
are used for printed on them.
I have not used Halon so I am unable to comment on it except if its as =
lethal as some have said then if the fire doesn't kill you the Halon =
will.
In answer to Randy's question how big is big enough, it comes down to =
what you want to save. If it's your family then what you have is fine, =
if it's the car you might want to carry a couple in the boot. A 9kg =
(20lb) of Dry Chem will last 22 seconds on a normal spray. Randy, good =
idea about trying one. If you don't know how efficient it is until your =
faced with a fire then its possibly too late. All our drivers go =
through familiarisation of extinguishers on an annual basis.
Cheers,
Chris
68 Coupe
Message: 3
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:50:14 -0500
From: "Rick Larson" <(email redacted)>
To: (email redacted)
Subject: [CM] fire bottle recommendations
Reply-To: (email redacted)
I'm planning to get a fire bottle for my 66.
Anyone have a size recommendation? Type? ABC dry something?
Jeff, got an opinion?
I'll mount it by the front passenger seat/tunnel area. Trunk is
a possibility but seems less convenient in case of an emergency.
Main purpose is to get the kids out safely. I can replace the car.
rick
66 coupe (family owned since 1966)
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Correction to your codes type 'C' is Electrical =
Fire. Type 'D'=20
Metals (forget trying to put out). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gary Moore<BR>World Mustang Association<BR><A=20
href=3D"Mustang1964.homestead.com">Mustang1964.homestead.co=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=(email redacted)=20
href=3D"mailtoemail redacted)">Chris Layt</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=(email redacted)=20
=
href=3D"mailtoemail redacted)">classic-mustangs@mix.=
twistedpair.ca</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 08, 2002 =
8:16=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CM] Re: =
Classic-mustangs=20
digest, Vol 1 #924 - 13 msgs</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rick,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From my experience (HR & Training =
Manager=20
Shell NSW (AUS)) we did a lot of training with our drivers and vehicle =
fires. Within the petroleum industry the 5 types of =
extinguishers we use=20
are water, CO2, Foam, Dry Chem & Wet Chem (used for fats in =
kitchens). I=20
have a 1kg (just over 2lb) bottle mounted at the base of the =
front=20
passenger seat. The dry chem although messy when used is great =
on petrol=20
and electrical fires. Caution does need to be used as it can =
burn the=20
eyes and can cause breathing difficulty if inhaled (need to get a good =
mouthful of it). If sprayed directly to the face it can kill a =
person=20
quicker than the fire itself. As someone said a fire needs three =
things=20
1. an ignition source 2. air 2. fuel (paper, fuel, etc). The dry =
chem=20
interrupts the chain reaction. Within a vehicle you are likely =
to get=20
Class A (Carbonaceous), Class B (Flammable/Combustible liquids) or =
Type E=20
(Electrical). Your fire bottles should have the types of fires =
they are=20
used for printed on them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have not used Halon so I am unable =
to comment=20
on it except if its as lethal as some have said then if the fire =
doesn't kill=20
you the Halon will.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In answer to Randy's question how big =
is big=20
enough, it comes down to what you want to save. If it's your =
family then=20
what you have is fine, if it's the car you might want to carry a =
couple in the=20
boot. A 9kg (20lb) of Dry Chem will last 22 seconds on a normal=20
spray. Randy, good idea about trying one. If you don't =
know how=20
efficient it is until your faced with a fire then its possibly too =
late. =20
All our drivers go through familiarisation of extinguishers on an =
annual=20
basis.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>68 Coupe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:50:14 -0500<BR>From: =
"Rick=20
Larson" <<A=20
href=3D"mailtoemail redacted)">(email redacted)</A>><BR>To: =
<A=20
=
href=3D"mailtoemail redacted)">classic-mustangs@mix.=
twistedpair.ca</A><BR>Subject:=20
[CM] fire bottle recommendations<BR>Reply-To: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailtoemail redacted)">classic-mustangs@mix.=
twistedpair.ca</A><BR><BR>I'm=20
planning to get a fire bottle for my 66.<BR><BR>Anyone have a size=20
recommendation? Type? ABC dry something?<BR><BR>Jeff, got =
an=20
opinion?<BR><BR>I'll mount it by the front passenger seat/tunnel =
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Correction to your codes type 'C' is Electrical Fire. Type 'D' Metals =
(forget trying to put out).=20
Gary Moore
World Mustang Association
Mustang1964.homestead.com
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Chris Layt=20
To: (email redacted)=20
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 8:16 PM
Subject: [CM] Re: Classic-mustangs digest, Vol 1 #924 - 13 msgs
Rick,
From my experience (HR & Training Manager Shell NSW (AUS)) we did a =
lot of training with our drivers and vehicle fires. Within the =
petroleum industry the 5 types of extinguishers we use are water, CO2, =
Foam, Dry Chem & Wet Chem (used for fats in kitchens). I have a 1kg =
(just over 2lb) bottle mounted at the base of the front passenger seat. =
The dry chem although messy when used is great on petrol and electrical =
fires. Caution does need to be used as it can burn the eyes and can =
cause breathing difficulty if inhaled (need to get a good mouthful of =
it). If sprayed directly to the face it can kill a person quicker than =
the fire itself. As someone said a fire needs three things 1. an =
ignition source 2. air 2. fuel (paper, fuel, etc). The dry chem =
interrupts the chain reaction. Within a vehicle you are likely to get =
Class A (Carbonaceous), Class B (Flammable/Combustible liquids) or Type =
E (Electrical). Your fire bottles should have the types of fires they =
are used for printed on them.
I have not used Halon so I am unable to comment on it except if its as =
lethal as some have said then if the fire doesn't kill you the Halon =
will.
In answer to Randy's question how big is big enough, it comes down to =
what you want to save. If it's your family then what you have is fine, =
if it's the car you might want to carry a couple in the boot. A 9kg =
(20lb) of Dry Chem will last 22 seconds on a normal spray. Randy, good =
idea about trying one. If you don't know how efficient it is until your =
faced with a fire then its possibly too late. All our drivers go =
through familiarisation of extinguishers on an annual basis.
Cheers,
Chris
68 Coupe
Message: 3
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:50:14 -0500
From: "Rick Larson" <(email redacted)>
To: (email redacted)
Subject: [CM] fire bottle recommendations
Reply-To: (email redacted)
I'm planning to get a fire bottle for my 66.
Anyone have a size recommendation? Type? ABC dry something?
Jeff, got an opinion?
I'll mount it by the front passenger seat/tunnel area. Trunk is
a possibility but seems less convenient in case of an emergency.
Main purpose is to get the kids out safely. I can replace the car.
rick
66 coupe (family owned since 1966)
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Correction to your codes type 'C' is Electrical =
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Metals (forget trying to put out). </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=(email redacted)=20
href=3D"mailto
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 08, 2002 =
8:16=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CM] Re: =
Classic-mustangs=20
digest, Vol 1 #924 - 13 msgs</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rick,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From my experience (HR & Training =
Manager=20
Shell NSW (AUS)) we did a lot of training with our drivers and vehicle =
fires. Within the petroleum industry the 5 types of =
extinguishers we use=20
are water, CO2, Foam, Dry Chem & Wet Chem (used for fats in =
kitchens). I=20
have a 1kg (just over 2lb) bottle mounted at the base of the =
front=20
passenger seat. The dry chem although messy when used is great =
on petrol=20
and electrical fires. Caution does need to be used as it can =
burn the=20
eyes and can cause breathing difficulty if inhaled (need to get a good =
mouthful of it). If sprayed directly to the face it can kill a =
person=20
quicker than the fire itself. As someone said a fire needs three =
things=20
1. an ignition source 2. air 2. fuel (paper, fuel, etc). The dry =
chem=20
interrupts the chain reaction. Within a vehicle you are likely =
to get=20
Class A (Carbonaceous), Class B (Flammable/Combustible liquids) or =
Type E=20
(Electrical). Your fire bottles should have the types of fires =
they are=20
used for printed on them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have not used Halon so I am unable =
to comment=20
on it except if its as lethal as some have said then if the fire =
doesn't kill=20
you the Halon will.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In answer to Randy's question how big =
is big=20
enough, it comes down to what you want to save. If it's your =
family then=20
what you have is fine, if it's the car you might want to carry a =
couple in the=20
boot. A 9kg (20lb) of Dry Chem will last 22 seconds on a normal=20
spray. Randy, good idea about trying one. If you don't =
know how=20
efficient it is until your faced with a fire then its possibly too =
late. =20
All our drivers go through familiarisation of extinguishers on an =
annual=20
basis.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>68 Coupe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:50:14 -0500<BR>From: =
"Rick=20
Larson" <<A=20
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=
href=3D"mailto
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[CM] fire bottle recommendations<BR>Reply-To: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto
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planning to get a fire bottle for my 66.<BR><BR>Anyone have a size=20
recommendation? Type? ABC dry something?<BR><BR>Jeff, got =
an=20
opinion?<BR><BR>I'll mount it by the front passenger seat/tunnel =
area. =20
Trunk is<BR>a possibility but seems less convenient in case of an=20
emergency.<BR><BR>Main purpose is to get the kids out safely. I =
can=20
replace the car.<BR><BR>rick<BR>66 coupe (family owned since =
1966)<BR></DIV>
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