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Mail From: shawkins6 (Steve Hawkins)

Anyone know where I can get a replacement brake pressure differential
valve at for a 68? I can find one for a 67 but, it's different than
what's on my 68.


Steve Hawkins




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Mail From: walt (Walt Boeninger)

I assume you are talking about the prop valve mounted
above the rear axle.

There were two different ones used in 67, a simple cylindrical
one, and one that sorta looks like the state of Texas, which
is pictured in the Shop Manual, and was available from Ford
a few years ago. I always thought that one was correct for a
68 also.

What type is on your 68?

Steve Hawkins wrote:

> Anyone know where I can get a replacement brake pressure differential
> valve at for a 68? I can find one for a 67 but, it's different than
> what's on my 68.
>
>
> Steve Hawkins

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Mail From: shawkins6 (Steve Hawkins)

No, this is mounted in the engine compartment below the master cylinder.
The brake pressure switch is mounted on it.

Steve Hawkins



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Subject: Re: [CM] 68 Brake differential valve


I assume you are talking about the prop valve mounted
above the rear axle.

There were two different ones used in 67, a simple cylindrical one, and
one that sorta looks like the state of Texas, which is pictured in the
Shop Manual, and was available from Ford a few years ago. I always
thought that one was correct for a 68 also.

What type is on your 68?

Steve Hawkins wrote:

> Anyone know where I can get a replacement brake pressure differential
> valve at for a 68? I can find one for a 67 but, it's different than
> what's on my 68.
>
>
> Steve Hawkins

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Mail From: chris (Chris Russell)


There are at least two different parts used -- this part is different
for manual drum and power-disc applications. I've owned both types
of 68 mustangs. In both cases they mount inside the engine
compartment near the master cylinder.

I'd check some of the online catalogs and/or call some of the mustang
specialty places (NPD, Mustangs Plus, John's mustangs, etc), they may
have them new or used or have ideas where you could find one.

You might also try master power brakes (mpbrakes.com) -- they
probably have something that will work if you are not interested in
original looks.

Chris

At 10:11 AM 10/31/2005, Steve Hawkins wrote:
>No, this is mounted in the engine compartment below the master cylinder.
>The brake pressure switch is mounted on it.
>
>Steve Hawkins
>
>
>
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>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:31 AM
>To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
>Cc: Mustang Club of Houston
>Subject: Re: [CM] 68 Brake differential valve
>
>
>I assume you are talking about the prop valve mounted
>above the rear axle.
>
>There were two different ones used in 67, a simple cylindrical one, and
>one that sorta looks like the state of Texas, which is pictured in the
>Shop Manual, and was available from Ford a few years ago. I always
>thought that one was correct for a 68 also.
>
>What type is on your 68?
>
>Steve Hawkins wrote:
>
> > Anyone know where I can get a replacement brake pressure differential
> > valve at for a 68? I can find one for a 67 but, it's different than
> > what's on my 68.
> >
> >
> > Steve Hawkins
>
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>
>Regards
>--------------
>Walt Boeninger
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>norcal-saac.org
>

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Mail From: keven (Coates, Keven)

The one that's mounted on the rear axle is not a proportioning valve,
from what I know. That's a simple distribution block. The
proportioning valve is next to the master cylinder and there were two
types from what I've seen in books.

The first was a block containing the proportioning valve combined with
the distribution block that distributes the front brake pressure to both
wheels and a shuttle valve which trips the brake warning light when one
system fails. The second was like that, but the proportioning function
was outside the distribution block in a little cylindrical block. The
manual shows this, but I've never seen one that way.

Sorry though, I don't know a good source. I'm using one from a '76
Granada, since I converted to four wheel disk brakes (front from the
Granada, back from the late model crown vic).

Keven
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Subject: Re: [CM] 68 Brake differential valve

I assume you are talking about the prop valve mounted
above the rear axle.

There were two different ones used in 67, a simple cylindrical
one, and one that sorta looks like the state of Texas, which
is pictured in the Shop Manual, and was available from Ford
a few years ago. I always thought that one was correct for a
68 also.

What type is on your 68?

Steve Hawkins wrote:

> Anyone know where I can get a replacement brake pressure differential
> valve at for a 68? I can find one for a 67 but, it's different than
> what's on my 68.
>
>
> Steve Hawkins

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Mail From: walt (Walt Boeninger)



Coates, Keven wrote:

> The one that's mounted on the rear axle is not a proportioning valve,
> from what I know. That's a simple distribution block. The
> proportioning valve is next to the master cylinder and there were two
> types from what I've seen in books.

Not the block on the axle, the prop valve is at the hardline
junction ..."above" the axle ....inline with the brake line

See pic. My 67 has the cylindrical prop valve.

norcal-saac.org/propvalve.JPG


I *think* 68s are same. Not sure when they moved the prop
valve under the hood.

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Mail From: chris (Chris Russell)


On my 68 disc brake mustang, the prop valve is in the engine
compartment. their is a distribution block with the pressure
differential switch, and an external cylindrical prop valve (actually
in my case I replaced this with an adjustable prop valve). It is all
under the hood mounted near the master cylinder.

Chris

At 08:33 AM 11/1/2005, Walt Boeninger wrote:


>Coates, Keven wrote:
>
>>The one that's mounted on the rear axle is not a proportioning valve,
>>from what I know. That's a simple distribution block. The
>>proportioning valve is next to the master cylinder and there were two
>>types from what I've seen in books.
>
>Not the block on the axle, the prop valve is at the hardline
>junction ..."above" the axle ....inline with the brake line
>
>See pic. My 67 has the cylindrical prop valve.
>
> norcal-saac.org/propvalve.JPG
>
>
>I *think* 68s are same. Not sure when they moved the prop
>valve under the hood.
>
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Mail From: walt (Walt Boeninger)

Does it look like either of the ones in the manual below?

That implies that 67 was an odd year for the prop valve... 65/66, 68
under the hood, 67 at the axle .... anyone else have a rear
mounted prop valve, or is my car weird? Now, my two 67s are
a bit different than most, but when I plumbed the race car,
the hardline to the rear required me to make a short connecter pipe
to the bracket where the flex line mounts, since I was not
using the stock prop valve.... and the other 67 is a very original
December build.

Walt
----

Chris Russell wrote:

>
> On my 68 disc brake mustang, the prop valve is in the engine
> compartment. their is a distribution block with the pressure
> differential switch, and an external cylindrical prop valve (actually in
> my case I replaced this with an adjustable prop valve). It is all under
> the hood mounted near the master cylinder.
>
> Chris
>
> At 08:33 AM 11/1/2005, Walt Boeninger wrote:
>
>
>> Coates, Keven wrote:
>>
>>> The one that's mounted on the rear axle is not a proportioning valve,
>>> from what I know. That's a simple distribution block. The
>>> proportioning valve is next to the master cylinder and there were two
>>> types from what I've seen in books.
>>
>>
>> Not the block on the axle, the prop valve is at the hardline
>> junction ..."above" the axle ....inline with the brake line
>>
>> See pic. My 67 has the cylindrical prop valve.
>>
>> norcal-saac.org/propvalve.JPG
>>
>>
>> I *think* 68s are same. Not sure when they moved the prop
>> valve under the hood.
>>
>> --
>>
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>> --------------
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>>
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Mail From: shawkins6 (Steve Hawkins)

I'm looking for the distribution block with the shuttle valve. My
shuttle valve won't move, probably rusted in place.

I'll probably replace the proportioning valve also while I'm at it if I
can find one. Mine is like your second description, it's mounted as
part of the distribution block/shuttle valve.

Steve Hawkins



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Coates, Keven
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 9:41 AM
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
Cc: Mustang Club of Houston
Subject: RE: [CM] 68 Brake differential valve


The one that's mounted on the rear axle is not a proportioning valve,
from what I know. That's a simple distribution block. The
proportioning valve is next to the master cylinder and there were two
types from what I've seen in books.

The first was a block containing the proportioning valve combined with
the distribution block that distributes the front brake pressure to both
wheels and a shuttle valve which trips the brake warning light when one
system fails. The second was like that, but the proportioning function
was outside the distribution block in a little cylindrical block. The
manual shows this, but I've never seen one that way.

Sorry though, I don't know a good source. I'm using one from a '76
Granada, since I converted to four wheel disk brakes (front from the
Granada, back from the late model crown vic).

Keven
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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:31 AM
To: A list for owners of Classic Mustangs
Cc: Mustang Club of Houston
Subject: Re: [CM] 68 Brake differential valve

I assume you are talking about the prop valve mounted
above the rear axle.

There were two different ones used in 67, a simple cylindrical one, and
one that sorta looks like the state of Texas, which is pictured in the
Shop Manual, and was available from Ford a few years ago. I always
thought that one was correct for a 68 also.

What type is on your 68?

Steve Hawkins wrote:

> Anyone know where I can get a replacement brake pressure differential
> valve at for a 68? I can find one for a 67 but, it's different than
> what's on my 68.
>
>
> Steve Hawkins

--

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--------------
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Mail From: cobra0375 (Gary)

Early 68's with drum brakes the valve was mounted on the drives side front
of the diff.

Gary Dempsey
04 FLSTC Harley
93 Cobra #375
03 Mustang convt.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [CM] 68 Brake differential valve


Does it look like either of the ones in the manual below?

That implies that 67 was an odd year for the prop valve... 65/66, 68
under the hood, 67 at the axle .... anyone else have a rear
mounted prop valve, or is my car weird? Now, my two 67s are
a bit different than most, but when I plumbed the race car,
the hardline to the rear required me to make a short connecter pipe
to the bracket where the flex line mounts, since I was not
using the stock prop valve.... and the other 67 is a very original
December build.

Walt
----

Chris Russell wrote:

>
> On my 68 disc brake mustang, the prop valve is in the engine
> compartment. their is a distribution block with the pressure
> differential switch, and an external cylindrical prop valve (actually in
> my case I replaced this with an adjustable prop valve). It is all under
> the hood mounted near the master cylinder.
>
> Chris
>
> At 08:33 AM 11/1/2005, Walt Boeninger wrote:
>
>
>> Coates, Keven wrote:
>>
>>> The one that's mounted on the rear axle is not a proportioning valve,
>>> from what I know. That's a simple distribution block. The
>>> proportioning valve is next to the master cylinder and there were two
>>> types from what I've seen in books.
>>
>>
>> Not the block on the axle, the prop valve is at the hardline
>> junction ..."above" the axle ....inline with the brake line
>>
>> See pic. My 67 has the cylindrical prop valve.
>>
>> norcal-saac.org/propvalve.JPG
>>
>>
>> I *think* 68s are same. Not sure when they moved the prop
>> valve under the hood.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>> --------------
>> Walt Boeninger
>> mailtoemail redacted)
>> norcal-saac.org
>>
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>
>
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>
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Mail From: shawkins6 (Steve Hawkins)

That's what I have. My distribution/differential valve is frozen and
won't move. I haven't found an exact replacement yet. Mine has 7
line's going in & out of it.

Steve Hawkins



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Subject: Re: [CM] 68 Brake differential valve



On my 68 disc brake mustang, the prop valve is in the engine
compartment. their is a distribution block with the pressure
differential switch, and an external cylindrical prop valve (actually
in my case I replaced this with an adjustable prop valve). It is all
under the hood mounted near the master cylinder.

Chris

At 08:33 AM 11/1/2005, Walt Boeninger wrote:


>Coates, Keven wrote:
>
>>The one that's mounted on the rear axle is not a proportioning valve,
>>from what I know. That's a simple distribution block. The
>>proportioning valve is next to the master cylinder and there were two
>>types from what I've seen in books.
>
>Not the block on the axle, the prop valve is at the hardline junction
>..."above" the axle ....inline with the brake line
>
>See pic. My 67 has the cylindrical prop valve.
>
> norcal-saac.org/propvalve.JPG
>
>
>I *think* 68s are same. Not sure when they moved the prop valve under
>the hood.
>
>--
>
>Regards
>--------------
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>
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